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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

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here's gene Steinberg well Chris I have

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one good thing to say about this week

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and that is no one else has tried to

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hack our site yet or our servers yeah

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that's good right well if they do it

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they'll try a different way I think

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anyone who wants to take control of any

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site or server even the Pentagon even

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the CIA they'll find a way to get in

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there like gary mckinnon there what

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happened to Gary McKinnon right yeah

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yeah the Brits aren't gonna allow them

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to be extradited we go back a few years

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McKinnon apparently broke into some

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Pentagon sites I gather and this is

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interesting because these sites were

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using the password password you know if

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you use a password like that the default

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password that a system might set up and

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the people who set up those sites

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they're supposed to change the password

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to something that is secure so somebody

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in the government this goes back a

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number of years didn't do that so this

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guy gets in there I guess partly in

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search of UFO related information right

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that was the motivation yeah and he did

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it on a dial-up computer like a

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Commodore 64 or some archaic old

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computer if I remember correctly and and

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I was able to peruse quite a number of

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documents including the the very

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enigmatic document that had the

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statement about I think a hundred and

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fifty-five off-planet naval officers if

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memory serves me correct which kind of

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raised a few eyebrows when that was

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announced well now we know there is a

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secret space program maybe Mike Bower

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was right yeah boy yeah I I think there

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is I mean I've always suspected that

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I've I've always suspected that that we

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have had advanced exotic technology

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since the end of World War two now just

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to let people know one of the issues

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with gary mckinnon is that he apparently

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has Asperger's

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syndrome that's what they say and that's

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kind of an autism disorder and the only

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remembrance I have of anything with

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Asperger's syndrome is this TV show

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called Boston Legal what one of the

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lawyers played by Christian Clemmensen

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really great character actor supposedly

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has Asperger's syndrome

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exaggerated to the nth degree yeah well

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that's the inability to pick up social

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signals I think and facial facial clues

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and body language yeah that was hidden

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he had to learn to try to control his

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emotions and his response to people of

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course I don't have much in the way of

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social skills but my disease has no

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description that's the end of most

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people my disease has no description

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whatever dinosaur itis well I have that

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too

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as a matter of fact of course from

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moving this past week I have a

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tremendous backache so all the back

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exercises I do have become extremely

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painful and someone will tell me well if

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it hurts don't do that don't do the

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exercises let your back rest don't try

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to lift any heavy things get lots of

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rest relaxation painkiller pills but

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what do I know in case back to MacKinnon

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yeah so they wanted to extradite him to

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the United States and throw him in

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prison for what if he got convicted 3040

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years or something crazy yeah yeah and I

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guess the the British authorities are

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concerned about his his mental state in

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that this may put him at risk for

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suicide well of course you have to also

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be considerate of the person who commits

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the crime not that a crime wasn't

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committed but we're talking about a kid

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who's has emotional difficulties we're

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talking about someone who was just

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looking for UFO information and we're

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talking about the fact that the

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computers or servers were not properly

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protected I mean I could have gotten in

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there you could have gotten in there

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I'd say anybody listening to the power

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cast with the most rudimentary computer

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skills for example could have gotten

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into those computers because they

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weren't protected who's minding the

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store nope well locks only keep out

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honest people as they say so

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oh there is that so who knows rather

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crazy it's back to the secret space

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forget all that stuff now Mike bara I

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guess had a lot of really fascinating

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information when he came on the show but

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the thing that bothered me and you might

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have gotten a sense of it and we'll deal

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in respect to the person who presented

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the opposition the more traditional

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point of view mr. expat well the problem

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with Mike Berra is that the people who

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disagree with him are not just

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disagreeing they are stalking him we are

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stupid oh you know and also they they

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have to be gay because straight people

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can't possibly disagree with him I mean

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it's nuts

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you know what is the sexual preference

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have to do with anything

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well he in China or anything like that

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no this is true and even if he had a

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case that makes his case more difficult

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to accept

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whereas expat is a proper British

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gentleman and he didn't insult anybody

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he simply presented his facts and his

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figures and as I said you want to

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disagree with him fine maybe he's wrong

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but not like we have a new visitor to

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our forums with amongst his user name is

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the word Martian you know and you're

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aware of this this guy is posted some

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very incendiary comments and he wants to

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be on the show that you see that

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no I didn't I missed that one oh yeah

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this guy wants to be on the show and he

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feels he has all sorts of really

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valuable information and I can

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understand the point except maybe that

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Hoagland Richard Hoagland the guy who

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talks about the face on Mars and the

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lunar mysteries and all that that he is

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some kind of government disinformation

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agent well didn't you didn't this uh

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this new poster Mitch and that Hogan

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sitting on some bombshell photographs or

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something well let's see them where is

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the evidence where's the evidence of

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that yeah yeah exactly

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exactly at this point I wrote a letter

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to the sky with the word Martian and his

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username and I said okay fascinating

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stuff he says he wants to be on the show

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where is the evidence

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no his response was to ask me to become

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a friend on Facebook which doesn't

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really help get us information so I said

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yes okay he didn't bother me he insulted

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some of our members in the forums though

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with a lot of incendiary language no and

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that is the same syndrome here you know

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the problem of someone disagrees with

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you

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douchebags or whatever here's different

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words words that we can't even use on

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the radio yeah well I don't know

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whenever you talk about moon people get

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loony yes I think it kind of lunatic

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like an especially full moon time so

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people sprout hair in places it's not

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supposed to grow and well that's

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something which we're going to cover

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with our guest this week so it's funny

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you should mention that

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but the other thing is here when we talk

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about Mars they become mad yeah okay so

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it gets to be pretty crazy it's been an

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interesting couple of weeks that's for

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sure it sure has and this week is a

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segue to something totally different or

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maybe not maybe not totally different

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because and as they say in that

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legendary movie even a man who is pure

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in heart and says his prayers by night

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may become a wolf when the wolfbane

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blooms in the autumn moon is bright it

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sounds to me like the werewolf has a

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sore throat no the werewolf II I didn't

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get enough sleep last night how tell me

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about it oh I was finally gave myself a

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night out and I'm regretting it sounds

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like it you need the painkillers too we

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both need painkillers and I'm not in

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favor of taking all sorts of medications

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I think they can block your

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processes but here you know I know

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anyway on this week's episode will

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feature Linda Godfrey and she's author

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of a book called real Wolfman true

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encounters in modern America so are we

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searching for Larry Talbot the wolf man

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is it possible that there are

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shapeshifters so though I don't know if

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she believes that but can men become

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wolves or women when the full moon is

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bright or otherwise it will like in the

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TV show True Blood we have all this and

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more coming up this week with gene and

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Chris cuz you in the para cast neighbors

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the werewolf lady herself Linda Godfrey

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she's author of real Wolfman true

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Linda you seem to be trotting some of

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the ground that's also been covered by

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people like Brad Steiger you know Brad I

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do I do he's become a good friend he and

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his wife Cherie yeah we had him on a few

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weeks ago Brad is someone I've known for

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30 or 40 years right and Brad has an

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amazing number of books out and his

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knowledge is in cyclic encyclopedic

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however we do I think tread different

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ground because mostly what I do is

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collect contemporary sightings of

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unknown upright canines you know where

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he doesn't really specialize in any one

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thing he just writes about everything

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with great definis and and knowledge so

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tell us about your background before you

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were studying man wolf's or werewolves

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or whatever what got you involved in the

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paranormal that your day job no not

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really

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I actually started out as an artist and

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cartoonist and I have a degree in art

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education but I wanted to make editorial

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cartoons

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and was having a little trouble getting

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syndicated so I went to the local

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newspaper and said I'll just do cartoons

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for you for free but they hired me as a

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reporter and a cartoonist so one of the

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first stories out of the block for me

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was about a rumor that was going around

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my own hometown of Elkhorn Wisconsin

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which was that people were reporting

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seeing what they called a werewolf for

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lack of a better word on this two mile

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stretch of country road called Bray Road

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and it seemed ludicrous to me at first I

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did have some previous study enough onto

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the paranormal but not cryptozoology you

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know and it never occurred to me that

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anybody would actually see something

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that looked like a where a werewolf in

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real life but what I found out when I

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poked into it a little bit was that they

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were actually submitting reports to our

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County animal control officer and when I

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dropped over by his office he showed me

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that he had a Manilla a file folder

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marked werewolf no boy when you've got a

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county official with a file folder

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marked werewolf that's news you know

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everything else just shuts down and it's

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okay we're going after this so he

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doesn't go howling at night though no he

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and he said well he didn't know what to

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call it either it was mostly for lack of

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a better word but he shared with me the

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names and addresses of the people who

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had been calling in to him and I thought

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first of all that's interesting in

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itself because if somebody's playing a

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prank or pulling a hoax you don't

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usually go and report yourself to the

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county official who could later you know

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jail you for endangering Public Safety

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or something like that I think it'd be

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stupid if you revealed your real name

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although you know these days they know

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where you are and they know what you do

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I don't have to reveal anything but this

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was 20 years ago

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yeah 1991 these reports are actually now

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quite infamous the Bray Road case has

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been ongoing for quite some time I can't

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wait to hear hear about your work I

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wanted to point out as well that we both

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started out exactly the same I started

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out doing cartoons for my little local

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paper and they hired me as a reporter

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and

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thought it was a I was gonna write a

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kind of a tongue-in-cheek piece about it

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in exactly and lo and behold Here I am

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20 years late yeah exactly but you know

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the other thing was that when I went out

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and interviewed these people they did

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not seem crazy to me and they did not

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appear to be lying and I just was also

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struck by how different they all were

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you know there was a young single mother

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there was an elderly woman returning

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from a factory there were a couple of

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farmers you name it they were young old

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blue collar white collar all over the

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map and I thought well something is

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going on here even if it's nothing more

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than folklore you know that should be

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recorded or if there's an animal that's

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dangerous and some sort of predator that

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people should know about it regardless I

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felt that with with those two things and

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the fact that there was a file folder

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marked werewolf in the county office

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that it deserved to be a story and my

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editor agreed but we didn't expect it to

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go on for so we thought two weeks people

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will talk and yuk it up and then it'll

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be forgotten well within two weeks it

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had gone national and I had started

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appearing on national TV shows like

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Inside Edition radio shows from one side

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of the country to the other and 20 years

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later it's bigger than ever and has

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expanded well before we get into more of

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the case histories this part of

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Wisconsin can you give a picture of it

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kind of discussed the geography and the

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population and all that stuff in terms

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of our listeners understanding it well

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with the caveat that this is not the

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only place these sightings occur sure

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southeastern Wisconsin is somewhat

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populated you'll find the cities of

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Madison and Milwaukee about an hour's

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drive apart Bray Road is probably an

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hour from each of them there are not

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only lots of farm fields cornfields

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things like that but also we're home to

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what is known as the Kettle Moraine

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forest the southern unit of it and this

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is a really unique geographical feature

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where there are just how

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and thousands of acres of strange deep

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bowl shaped depressions that were carved

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out by the glacier with ridges in

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between them and as I've mapped these

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things I really keep believing that that

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area is the key to these sightings

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because they could just hide so many

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things well the one thing of course that

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we do hear about different parts of the

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country is the word window area where

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they seem to attract more paranormal

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events is it just man wolves wolf men or

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is it other stuff oh no not at all

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usually where you find the manual for

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the dog man you also find Bigfoot often

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there are concentrated UFO hot spots in

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the area large unidentifiable flying

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birds that kind of thing so John keels

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idea of window areas really does apply

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to hot spots for sightings of the dog

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man okay how about a case history maybe

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one instance where it seems to paint the

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general picture of what's going on with

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a few details well there are so many to

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pick from but let me just give you one

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one scenario there was a man near

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Kilgore Texas who a few years ago was

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driving along late at night he sees

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something in the high beams of his car

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he slows down and it is a dog or wolf

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headed up right 7-foot tall creature

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loping along carrying a yearling a dead

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yearling deer in its four limbs and this

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is such a classic scenario it turns its

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head the man can see that it's clearly

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not a human in any kind of a suit he can

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see the muzzle and the fangs dripping

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and the pointed ears on top of the head

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the thing growls at him not at all in a

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frightened way but in a very aggressive

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way and the man steps on the gas and

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just keeps going okay so this is very

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much like the werewolf we've seen a lot

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of movies and werewolves have been shown

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different ways and you'll get into more

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detail about this sometimes they just

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look like wolves and like in the TV show

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True Blood

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they have glowing eyes to distinguish

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them from regular wolves or it's like of

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course the movie werewolf like The

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Wolfman where it's an upright person who

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sprouts a wolf like heads so

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of kinda with hairy arms and claws and

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hairy legs and all that sort of stuff

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our guest this week is Linda Godfrey and

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we're going to go deep into the

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paranormal deep into the world of real

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Wolfman true encounters in modern

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America and we'll cover a lot of those

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encounters with Gene and Kris you're in

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hear anywhere else

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with Linda Godfrey we're exploring wolf

622
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men and you talked about this case in

623
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Texas Linda where it's an upright

624
00:27:29,070 --> 00:27:25,420
creature with kind of like a wolf's head

625
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right is that difficult of what we see

626
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:32,230
or are they different shapes no no

627
00:27:38,340 --> 00:27:34,690
that's a really typical sighting and

628
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beyond that people will add usually that

629
00:27:43,380 --> 00:27:40,570
it was covered with dark colored shaggy

630
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fur sometimes gray which is a variation

631
00:27:47,550 --> 00:27:45,220
you might expect within a wolf pack

632
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pointed ears on top of the head a long

633
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pointed muzzle usually the eyes will

634
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reflect in the headlights either a

635
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golden greenish yellow tone something

636
00:27:59,550 --> 00:27:57,790
like that if the tight tail is sighted

637
00:28:01,770 --> 00:27:59,560
it's described as bushy like a wolves

638
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:01,780
and then this is how I know gene that

639
00:28:05,370 --> 00:28:03,370
they're really looking and observing

640
00:28:07,620 --> 00:28:05,380
they'll say something like well it ran

641
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:07,630
or walked really well on its hind legs

642
00:28:12,090 --> 00:28:10,090
but its legs were bent backwards and

643
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:12,100
what they mean by that is they're

644
00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:14,770
observing that like canines it's

645
00:28:19,230 --> 00:28:17,200
walking on its toe pads and what would

646
00:28:21,630 --> 00:28:19,240
be analogous to the human heel and ankle

647
00:28:23,130 --> 00:28:21,640
joint where we expect to see that on the

648
00:28:24,990 --> 00:28:23,140
ground if it's a human and then a knee

649
00:28:25,260 --> 00:28:25,000
going forward that's really up in the

650
00:28:27,450 --> 00:28:25,270
air

651
00:28:29,220 --> 00:28:27,460
it's pointing the other way than the

652
00:28:30,630 --> 00:28:29,230
knee bends and the knee on the canine is

653
00:28:33,870 --> 00:28:30,640
somewhere up around what we would call

654
00:28:36,290 --> 00:28:33,880
the or expect to see is the thigh so it

655
00:28:38,910 --> 00:28:36,300
tells me that they're observing canine

656
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:38,920
physiology very closely yeah the thing

657
00:28:42,930 --> 00:28:40,930
they'll often say is well it ran easily

658
00:28:44,970 --> 00:28:42,940
but it was a little hunched over that's

659
00:28:47,310 --> 00:28:44,980
just because the canine neck is not

660
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:47,320
really made to be upright like the human

661
00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:50,170
spine you know it just has a skeletal

662
00:28:54,810 --> 00:28:52,000
difference that shows up when it walks

663
00:28:56,910 --> 00:28:54,820
on its hind legs the arms or four limbs

664
00:28:58,890 --> 00:28:56,920
are usually described as being held out

665
00:29:00,960 --> 00:28:58,900
like a dog that's begging or sometimes

666
00:29:02,670 --> 00:29:00,970
they'll say like a kangaroo or the way

667
00:29:04,740 --> 00:29:02,680
that you would expect to see if you

668
00:29:07,500 --> 00:29:04,750
envisioned one of those dancing dogs on

669
00:29:09,750 --> 00:29:07,510
you know one of the TV star reality

670
00:29:11,700 --> 00:29:09,760
shows they all always have their little

671
00:29:13,500 --> 00:29:11,710
arms folded up in front of them the

672
00:29:16,590 --> 00:29:13,510
difference with these creatures is that

673
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:16,600
they seem to have elongated paws and

674
00:29:21,900 --> 00:29:19,210
that they're able to do things like

675
00:29:26,190 --> 00:29:21,910
carry a deer I've had many reports of

676
00:29:28,769 --> 00:29:26,200
them carrying deer Road just roadkill of

677
00:29:30,389 --> 00:29:28,779
kind unidentifiable carrion in their

678
00:29:32,489 --> 00:29:30,399
forelimbs while they're running along

679
00:29:34,619 --> 00:29:32,499
you know and it seems to me that that

680
00:29:36,060 --> 00:29:34,629
probably is a real advantage if you want

681
00:29:37,739 --> 00:29:36,070
to keep your food you don't have to drag

682
00:29:40,649 --> 00:29:37,749
it on the ground well the word werewolf

683
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:40,659
the way we understand it from movies and

684
00:29:47,009 --> 00:29:43,450
books and everything is that they could

685
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:47,019
be either a man or this creature so do

686
00:29:52,470 --> 00:29:48,850
these creatures turn or is that their

687
00:29:55,919 --> 00:29:52,480
shape 24/7 I believe that in most cases

688
00:29:58,470 --> 00:29:55,929
that's their shape well over 90% of the

689
00:30:00,869 --> 00:29:58,480
sightings that I get refer to some kind

690
00:30:03,749 --> 00:30:00,879
of creature that doesn't really do

691
00:30:06,299 --> 00:30:03,759
anything supernatural its behavior is

692
00:30:08,099 --> 00:30:06,309
and it has no human parts you know if

693
00:30:10,470 --> 00:30:08,109
you saw a dead one lying in the road it

694
00:30:13,889 --> 00:30:10,480
would just look like some enormous wolf

695
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:13,899
or wolfdog hybrids okay so it's not like

696
00:30:18,419 --> 00:30:16,330
they die and they become like the guy

697
00:30:20,399 --> 00:30:18,429
down the street not according to any

698
00:30:22,289 --> 00:30:20,409
eyewitnesses that I've ever had report

699
00:30:24,180 --> 00:30:22,299
to me now this is not to say that I

700
00:30:27,619 --> 00:30:24,190
don't believe there can be separate

701
00:30:30,810 --> 00:30:27,629
instances of classic shape-shifting or

702
00:30:32,519 --> 00:30:30,820
other things coming into play you know

703
00:30:35,549 --> 00:30:32,529
I'm not sure that every single sighting

704
00:30:37,710 --> 00:30:35,559
has to be the same exact thing and in

705
00:30:40,289 --> 00:30:37,720
fact there's a subclass that I call

706
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:40,299
bedroom invaders where people will wake

707
00:30:45,149 --> 00:30:43,330
up or be awake already and see these

708
00:30:47,519 --> 00:30:45,159
things materialize in their homes

709
00:30:49,859 --> 00:30:47,529
sometimes the bedroom sometimes the

710
00:30:52,739 --> 00:30:49,869
sunny living room and there in those

711
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:52,749
cases they appear sometimes just

712
00:30:58,139 --> 00:30:54,970
slightly translucent they're usually

713
00:31:00,840 --> 00:30:58,149
blackford often short black fur people

714
00:31:03,509 --> 00:31:00,850
will compare them to Anubis Egyptian god

715
00:31:05,129 --> 00:31:03,519
of the dead and usually they look around

716
00:31:07,889 --> 00:31:05,139
they appear they make their presence

717
00:31:10,710 --> 00:31:07,899
known and then they just poof disappear

718
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:10,720
alright so with that we're seeing a

719
00:31:15,659 --> 00:31:12,970
magical creature not a physical being

720
00:31:18,389 --> 00:31:15,669
like getting cryptozoology when we talk

721
00:31:20,999 --> 00:31:18,399
to people like Loren Coleman we speak of

722
00:31:23,399 --> 00:31:21,009
creatures that exist in this place and

723
00:31:25,590 --> 00:31:23,409
time only we haven't discovered the

724
00:31:27,930 --> 00:31:25,600
species yet we have figured out what a

725
00:31:29,879 --> 00:31:27,940
Bigfoot is but now when they start

726
00:31:33,060 --> 00:31:29,889
appearing in people's rooms and maybe

727
00:31:34,729 --> 00:31:33,070
they're not fully visible they're partly

728
00:31:37,289 --> 00:31:34,739
transparent we're talking about a

729
00:31:39,610 --> 00:31:37,299
magical creature something that may not

730
00:31:41,620 --> 00:31:39,620
be of this reality

731
00:31:43,540 --> 00:31:41,630
right it could be transdimensional it

732
00:31:46,450 --> 00:31:43,550
could be you know what my Native

733
00:31:48,100 --> 00:31:46,460
American friends call spirit animals it

734
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:48,110
could be something we just don't even

735
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:51,050
begin to comprehend but it doesn't mean

736
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:52,850
that it's necessarily the same

737
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:55,850
phenomenon as these creatures that try

738
00:32:00,790 --> 00:31:57,530
it around out in the woods and gather up

739
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:00,800
roadkill and just tend to want to really

740
00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:02,570
scare people but don't really have any

741
00:32:09,670 --> 00:32:06,110
true human attributes do they go after

742
00:32:11,500 --> 00:32:09,680
people to attack them or is it just a

743
00:32:13,570 --> 00:32:11,510
happenstance you see them and they go on

744
00:32:15,790 --> 00:32:13,580
their way doing their thing this is one

745
00:32:17,590 --> 00:32:15,800
of the amazingly consistent things over

746
00:32:21,669 --> 00:32:17,600
20 years and the hundreds of reports

747
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:21,679
that I received and at no time it with

748
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:23,690
the exception of one one man in Quebec

749
00:32:28,210 --> 00:32:25,490
and he thinks it was an accident one of

750
00:32:30,910 --> 00:32:28,220
these things lunged at him grazed his

751
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:30,920
hip and side with one of its fangs and

752
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:33,530
left kind of a long jagged scar that he

753
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:35,090
sent me a picture of which I have no way

754
00:32:39,190 --> 00:32:36,530
of proving if that's really what made it

755
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:39,200
but other than that people have met

756
00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:41,450
these things out in the open in the

757
00:32:46,900 --> 00:32:44,510
woods you know on lonely lovers lanes

758
00:32:50,049 --> 00:32:46,910
other places they've jumped out at them

759
00:32:52,030 --> 00:32:50,059
even chase them but just when people

760
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:52,040
think that they're about to be eaten or

761
00:32:57,610 --> 00:32:55,610
attacked or whatever it invariably veers

762
00:32:59,320 --> 00:32:57,620
off into the nearest underbrush or

763
00:33:01,210 --> 00:32:59,330
cornfield or whatever happens to be

764
00:33:03,630 --> 00:33:01,220
there it appears more interested in

765
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:03,640
scaring people away from its territory

766
00:33:09,070 --> 00:33:07,010
than it does in actually wanting to you

767
00:33:10,810 --> 00:33:09,080
know attack and eat somebody saying I

768
00:33:14,350 --> 00:33:10,820
want to take a fire or maybe just we're

769
00:33:16,060 --> 00:33:14,360
not something that's on their menu you

770
00:33:17,820 --> 00:33:16,070
know I go to the people restaurant they

771
00:33:20,140 --> 00:33:17,830
want to go to the deer restaurant

772
00:33:21,790 --> 00:33:20,150
exactly exactly and you know some of my

773
00:33:24,570 --> 00:33:21,800
Native American friends have told me

774
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:24,580
well actually these creatures and

775
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:27,050
Bigfoot both of which were known to

776
00:33:32,799 --> 00:33:30,050
their distant ancestors are older in

777
00:33:34,660 --> 00:33:32,809
origin than humans and that they have

778
00:33:36,850 --> 00:33:34,670
some ancient business with us that

779
00:33:39,370 --> 00:33:36,860
really forbids them from eating us but

780
00:33:42,190 --> 00:33:39,380
then you go to certain Native American

781
00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:42,200
legends and they regard these Bigfoot at

782
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:46,480
least as cannibals so who knows exactly

783
00:33:50,590 --> 00:33:48,890
well I know one of the things that our

784
00:33:52,870 --> 00:33:50,600
own Christopher O'Brien has done over

785
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:52,880
the years he's gotten close with

786
00:33:57,100 --> 00:33:54,890
Native Americans who tell them about all

787
00:33:59,170 --> 00:33:57,110
the legends Chris let me pursue this

788
00:34:01,750 --> 00:33:59,180
line of question about the origins of

789
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:01,760
the legends of a werewolf from the

790
00:34:09,460 --> 00:34:05,810
American Indian point of view well you

791
00:34:13,060 --> 00:34:09,470
know it's it's interesting I personally

792
00:34:17,020 --> 00:34:13,070
have not really encountered any sort of

793
00:34:20,580 --> 00:34:17,030
oral tradition that relates to you know

794
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:20,590
a wolf man or a dog man type creature

795
00:34:27,490 --> 00:34:23,690
they do tend to be cited though I think

796
00:34:28,869 --> 00:34:27,500
in Linda will probably bear me out they

797
00:34:30,610 --> 00:34:28,879
are cited around

798
00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:30,620
Indian reservations and on Indian

799
00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:34,129
reservations the the only case that I

800
00:34:38,010 --> 00:34:36,110
personally have really been involved

801
00:34:39,730 --> 00:34:38,020
with in and it was only peripherally

802
00:34:43,919 --> 00:34:39,740
monitoring the people that were

803
00:34:46,690 --> 00:34:43,929
investigating the case was up on the the

804
00:34:48,790 --> 00:34:46,700
mountain ute Indian Reservation up near

805
00:34:50,530 --> 00:34:48,800
Fort de Shane and there was an event

806
00:34:52,869 --> 00:34:50,540
that occurred in 2009 which I've

807
00:34:54,820 --> 00:34:52,879
mentioned on the show before where this

808
00:34:58,090 --> 00:34:54,830
dog man as it was described was seen

809
00:35:00,190 --> 00:34:58,100
leaping from house to house you know the

810
00:35:01,990 --> 00:35:00,200
way whereas reservation housing they're

811
00:35:04,090 --> 00:35:02,000
all cookie cutter and they're about 20

812
00:35:06,700 --> 00:35:04,100
feet apart and this thing was able to

813
00:35:09,700 --> 00:35:06,710
leap 20 25 feet from rooftop to rooftop

814
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:09,710
in front of a number of witnesses so it

815
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:11,690
was able to leap tall buildings in a

816
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single bit exactly sorry devil made me

817
00:35:20,230 --> 00:35:17,930
do that yeah I knew you were gonna

818
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probably chime in with that one and the

819
00:35:24,610 --> 00:35:22,520
other case from yeah this is up around

820
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the Sherman ranch the hunt for the

821
00:35:31,240 --> 00:35:27,710
skinwalker ranch case and the other case

822
00:35:33,610 --> 00:35:31,250
I think was mentioned in that book where

823
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:33,620
the ranching family observed one of

824
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:35,330
these dog men leaning up against the

825
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trees smoking a cigarette which I always

826
00:35:43,810 --> 00:35:40,310
I always found it to be incredibly

827
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:43,820
fascinated what a interesting detail but

828
00:35:52,870 --> 00:35:48,130
in terms of of actual crypto creature

829
00:35:55,030 --> 00:35:52,880
I'm really not aware of the Indian Linda

830
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:55,040
has done obviously a lot more research

831
00:35:59,380 --> 00:35:56,210
in this than I have and she'll probably

832
00:36:01,300 --> 00:35:59,390
have correct me here but I'm not aware

833
00:36:02,410 --> 00:36:01,310
of any real legends that mention that

834
00:36:05,410 --> 00:36:02,420
now

835
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:05,420
our legends from your part of the world

836
00:36:11,789 --> 00:36:08,210
up there you know the a jib away on a

837
00:36:14,410 --> 00:36:11,799
snobby area of the wind ego which is

838
00:36:17,829 --> 00:36:14,420
more of a bigfoot-type creature and

839
00:36:21,089 --> 00:36:17,839
cannibalistic I might add but it doesn't

840
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have that that that canine or wolf like

841
00:36:26,530 --> 00:36:23,750
the description of it they're very fast

842
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very very big we have more wolf like

843
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stuff to cover so much more with Linda

844
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Godfrey speaking with Jeanne and Chris

845
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and Chris is not gonna hell here by the

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00:41:23,170 --> 00:41:21,400
chris is getting his Howling voice back

949
00:41:24,099 --> 00:41:23,180
it was a little bit rough before because

950
00:41:26,470 --> 00:41:24,109
he had a long night

951
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got up late and didn't have time for his

952
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953
00:41:36,070 --> 00:41:32,240
don't I'm gonna make a cup of coffee

954
00:41:39,339 --> 00:41:36,080
right now well I should do that we have

955
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:39,349
Linda Godfrey talking about werewolves

956
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:42,170
but not in addition to Native American

957
00:41:48,700 --> 00:41:45,410
legends when you talk about Anubis and

958
00:41:52,210 --> 00:41:48,710
gods of Egypt how far back can we trace

959
00:41:55,630 --> 00:41:52,220
any legend of a man wolf a werewolf or

960
00:41:58,270 --> 00:41:55,640
whatever well if you go by just where

961
00:42:00,490 --> 00:41:58,280
predators of all different types you can

962
00:42:03,150 --> 00:42:00,500
find representations of them back in

963
00:42:06,130 --> 00:42:03,160
some of the earliest cave art and

964
00:42:08,770 --> 00:42:06,140
earliest civilizations all the way back

965
00:42:11,260 --> 00:42:08,780
to old Anatolia which is now present-day

966
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:11,270
Turkey you know so as far as we know

967
00:42:17,530 --> 00:42:14,570
this association and idea of predators

968
00:42:21,849 --> 00:42:17,540
that walked upright is extremely ancient

969
00:42:24,700 --> 00:42:21,859
and there recently in the u.s. from

970
00:42:26,589 --> 00:42:24,710
Atherton Canyon in Montana they have

971
00:42:29,380 --> 00:42:26,599
actually found some ancient petroglyphs

972
00:42:31,839 --> 00:42:29,390
and other sorts of Native American art

973
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:31,849
that show an upright wolf in one case

974
00:42:37,990 --> 00:42:35,210
and they also show pictographs of men

975
00:42:40,750 --> 00:42:38,000
perhaps performing a transformative act

976
00:42:42,670 --> 00:42:40,760
by wearing wolf hat and wolf tail

977
00:42:46,210 --> 00:42:42,680
moccasins and that sort of thing and

978
00:42:48,490 --> 00:42:46,220
that's you know very ancient art so I

979
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:48,500
think that you can take this idea way

980
00:42:55,690 --> 00:42:52,730
back indeed now one of the things we

981
00:42:59,740 --> 00:42:55,700
think about werewolves we go back to the

982
00:43:02,560 --> 00:42:59,750
original movie The Wolfman in 1941 with

983
00:43:04,839 --> 00:43:02,570
lund Chaney jr. as Larry Chavez in the

984
00:43:07,540 --> 00:43:04,849
Wolfman of course it was a fiction story

985
00:43:11,590 --> 00:43:07,550
of fantasies action story it was the

986
00:43:13,540 --> 00:43:11,600
classic Hollywood depiction anyway then

987
00:43:16,930 --> 00:43:13,550
in the first movie it's not at all clear

988
00:43:17,860 --> 00:43:16,940
that required a full moon although that

989
00:43:19,750 --> 00:43:17,870
was implied

990
00:43:23,110 --> 00:43:19,760
he didn't say full moon it was the

991
00:43:25,780 --> 00:43:23,120
autumn moon is bright and those legends

992
00:43:27,850 --> 00:43:25,790
now is that something that was developed

993
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:27,860
strictly for that film or was it based

994
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:30,290
on any kind of folklore pretty much you

995
00:43:33,430 --> 00:43:32,090
know because that whole line about even

996
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:33,440
the man who says his prayers at night

997
00:43:38,020 --> 00:43:34,970
people think that that's a true old

998
00:43:40,690 --> 00:43:38,030
gypsy curse but it was made up by the

999
00:43:42,910 --> 00:43:40,700
writers and producers you know as and

1000
00:43:45,430 --> 00:43:42,920
most most of the lore be having to be

1001
00:43:48,580 --> 00:43:45,440
bitten to become one you know that's a

1002
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:48,590
fairly new concept back in ancient times

1003
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:51,530
it was considered more of a magical

1004
00:43:55,930 --> 00:43:53,330
transformation and you'd need certain

1005
00:43:59,770 --> 00:43:55,940
unguent you would need a wolf wolf fur

1006
00:44:02,710 --> 00:43:59,780
belt or girdle to change the silver

1007
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:02,720
might have come from a certain incident

1008
00:44:09,070 --> 00:44:06,050
in France where a beast was rumored to

1009
00:44:11,890 --> 00:44:09,080
have been finally killed when they took

1010
00:44:13,330 --> 00:44:11,900
the consecrated silver chalice from a

1011
00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:13,340
church and melted it down to make

1012
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:15,730
bullets and then because those were holy

1013
00:44:19,720 --> 00:44:17,810
consecrated bullets they killed it and

1014
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:19,730
somehow that got translated into silver

1015
00:44:25,060 --> 00:44:21,890
bullets of course there were the lone

1016
00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:25,070
ranger bullets was really looking for

1017
00:44:32,260 --> 00:44:28,250
werewolves I see they got the legends

1018
00:44:34,450 --> 00:44:32,270
screwed up right well you know Hollywood

1019
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:34,460
just keeps adding and adding to the

1020
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:37,370
legends and then people get confused and

1021
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:40,370
and take those for real things and I'll

1022
00:44:44,110 --> 00:44:41,930
tell you I do have people who write to

1023
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:44,120
me and claim to be actual true

1024
00:44:48,010 --> 00:44:46,370
traditional werewolves that have to be

1025
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:48,020
chained up in their basement every full

1026
00:44:52,930 --> 00:44:50,210
moon you know and they try not to bite

1027
00:44:54,850 --> 00:44:52,940
people but have this urge to do so and I

1028
00:44:58,360 --> 00:44:54,860
do have a standard challenge which is

1029
00:45:01,300 --> 00:44:58,370
please next time that happens just set

1030
00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:01,310
up your video camera on a tripod and set

1031
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:02,960
it somewhere where you can't get out of

1032
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:05,690
it with your chains and tape the

1033
00:45:09,700 --> 00:45:07,610
transformation for me and send it to me

1034
00:45:11,890 --> 00:45:09,710
and nobody has and the reason I know

1035
00:45:14,410 --> 00:45:11,900
this doesn't happen is because really it

1036
00:45:16,390 --> 00:45:14,420
would be all over YouTube by now well if

1037
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:16,400
there was a transformation yes we'd

1038
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:17,690
catch it well the things we know about

1039
00:45:21,910 --> 00:45:20,330
werewolves now dates back to Kurt psych

1040
00:45:23,660 --> 00:45:21,920
Mac and I don't know if I'm pronouncing

1041
00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:23,670
his name right he was

1042
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:26,400
in science fiction novelist and

1043
00:45:30,470 --> 00:45:28,170
screenwriter who came to Hollywood and

1044
00:45:34,100 --> 00:45:30,480
wrote so many of those science fiction

1045
00:45:36,350 --> 00:45:34,110
and horror films exactly right he's the

1046
00:45:38,570 --> 00:45:36,360
one who made up the so-called gypsy

1047
00:45:40,430 --> 00:45:38,580
curse you know that that many people

1048
00:45:43,130 --> 00:45:40,440
think was real but it was written by him

1049
00:45:44,210 --> 00:45:43,140
and you know we as I said we have him to

1050
00:45:46,670 --> 00:45:44,220
thank for a lot of these other

1051
00:45:49,700 --> 00:45:46,680
traditions by the way in the UFO field

1052
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:49,710
he is the person who wrote the film

1053
00:45:55,130 --> 00:45:52,170
earth vs. the flying saucers from the

1054
00:45:57,380 --> 00:45:55,140
1950s the one with the Ray Harryhausen

1055
00:45:59,270 --> 00:45:57,390
animated special effects that was the

1056
00:46:01,340 --> 00:45:59,280
one where they bought matric hijos book

1057
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:01,350
one of matric eoz books I think flying

1058
00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:03,930
saucer conspiracy and they turned it

1059
00:46:11,810 --> 00:46:07,200
into a standard invaders on the loose

1060
00:46:13,850 --> 00:46:11,820
kind of film to embarrassment oh that's

1061
00:46:16,340 --> 00:46:13,860
too bad yeah this guy wrote the script

1062
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:16,350
but he wrote some amazing just to look

1063
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:18,690
at the stuff he wrote cuz he lived to

1064
00:46:25,580 --> 00:46:21,930
like 98 years old and look at his stuff

1065
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:25,590
he wrote films from the early 20s

1066
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:29,330
through the 60s some of the famous

1067
00:46:34,070 --> 00:46:32,490
science fiction horror films he wrote

1068
00:46:36,740 --> 00:46:34,080
all those universal most of those

1069
00:46:38,930 --> 00:46:36,750
Universal horror films it was an amazing

1070
00:46:41,470 --> 00:46:38,940
writer with an amazing legacy and he

1071
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:41,480
colored our perceptions of werewolves

1072
00:46:48,170 --> 00:46:45,330
exactly yeah he just had so much impact

1073
00:46:51,890 --> 00:46:48,180
on the pop culture concept of a werewolf

1074
00:46:54,470 --> 00:46:51,900
that that's what people think of you

1075
00:46:56,570 --> 00:46:54,480
know in their minds you know and I just

1076
00:46:59,120 --> 00:46:56,580
have to say that is not what probably

1077
00:47:01,340 --> 00:46:59,130
95% of people who report to me are

1078
00:47:04,550 --> 00:47:01,350
seeing it's it's a different thing and

1079
00:47:06,650 --> 00:47:04,560
it's amazingly consistent you'd expect

1080
00:47:09,020 --> 00:47:06,660
if people were making things up that

1081
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:09,030
these things would vary wildly from

1082
00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:11,850
report to report but they don't and they

1083
00:47:17,240 --> 00:47:14,250
very seldom sound like something that

1084
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:17,250
came out of a Hollywood movie that's so

1085
00:47:21,580 --> 00:47:18,930
interesting because sometimes in the

1086
00:47:23,990 --> 00:47:21,590
paranormal you see pop culture

1087
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:24,000
influencing what you see and the native

1088
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:26,610
what you see we see this in UFOs but

1089
00:47:31,570 --> 00:47:28,770
with man wolves werewolves it's

1090
00:47:36,380 --> 00:47:31,580
consistent through the centuries well

1091
00:47:37,610 --> 00:47:36,390
through the xxi and and late 20th

1092
00:47:40,070 --> 00:47:37,620
century anyway

1093
00:47:42,050 --> 00:47:40,080
it's hard to say when you go back to

1094
00:47:44,150 --> 00:47:42,060
medieval tales of werewolf's

1095
00:47:45,650 --> 00:47:44,160
they really don't even sound like the

1096
00:47:47,060 --> 00:47:45,660
ones we're seeing now they're mostly not

1097
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:47,070
on their hind legs they're mostly

1098
00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:48,650
running around on four legs and

1099
00:47:56,630 --> 00:47:52,880
indistinguishable from a regular wolf

1100
00:47:58,190 --> 00:47:56,640
you know it's it's more of that the the

1101
00:48:01,670 --> 00:47:58,200
person who is suspected of turning into

1102
00:48:05,150 --> 00:48:01,680
a werewolf in fact was often said to be

1103
00:48:07,010 --> 00:48:05,160
sleeping safely someplace while a spirit

1104
00:48:11,510 --> 00:48:07,020
animal went out from him that looked

1105
00:48:14,240 --> 00:48:11,520
exactly like a regular wolf and if that

1106
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:14,250
wolf was shot at or injured say somebody

1107
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:16,290
shot it in the leg then they would find

1108
00:48:22,270 --> 00:48:19,050
a corresponding wound on the sleeping

1109
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:22,280
person so basically it was like a

1110
00:48:27,770 --> 00:48:25,170
duplicate or carbon copy of yourself

1111
00:48:30,110 --> 00:48:27,780
sort of a lot of people believe that we

1112
00:48:32,510 --> 00:48:30,120
have a couple layers of spirit bodies

1113
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:32,520
the lowest one being called the astral

1114
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:34,290
body and then there's you know a finer

1115
00:48:40,070 --> 00:48:36,330
grade and that some people believe

1116
00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:40,080
through mental discipline yoga

1117
00:48:46,270 --> 00:48:43,440
techniques meditation some people inch

1118
00:48:49,870 --> 00:48:46,280
and shamans of all of all cultures

1119
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:49,880
practice this that they're able to use

1120
00:48:56,900 --> 00:48:53,490
this spirit energy to send forth a

1121
00:48:58,850 --> 00:48:56,910
manifestation that other people can see

1122
00:49:01,160 --> 00:48:58,860
and sometimes that even separates from

1123
00:49:03,770 --> 00:49:01,170
them and sort of goes its own way in

1124
00:49:05,650 --> 00:49:03,780
Tibetan Laura it's called a Tulpa you

1125
00:49:08,900 --> 00:49:05,660
know and there have been examples

1126
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:08,910
written about in this way and actually

1127
00:49:15,170 --> 00:49:11,970
I've researched a lot of Native American

1128
00:49:16,940 --> 00:49:15,180
literature about shape-shifting and that

1129
00:49:19,430 --> 00:49:16,950
sort of thing and what I'm really coming

1130
00:49:21,530 --> 00:49:19,440
away with is that they don't to be

1131
00:49:25,460 --> 00:49:21,540
saying that their entire bodies are

1132
00:49:27,860 --> 00:49:25,470
completely changing molecule molecule by

1133
00:49:29,870 --> 00:49:27,870
corpuscle by atom but that they are

1134
00:49:31,670 --> 00:49:29,880
projecting and I've even found at least

1135
00:49:35,180 --> 00:49:31,680
one text that uses that very word

1136
00:49:38,210 --> 00:49:35,190
they're projecting this animal image

1137
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:38,220
from their own bodily energy or there

1138
00:49:44,110 --> 00:49:39,810
are some that would say that they that

1139
00:49:46,790 --> 00:49:44,120
they take it from a spirit world

1140
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:46,800
manifestation that sort of are nature's

1141
00:49:51,050 --> 00:49:48,210
spirit but maybe it would be a better

1142
00:49:52,940 --> 00:49:51,060
way to put it that sort of permeates

1143
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:52,950
so if this creature is being projected

1144
00:49:57,710 --> 00:49:55,890
the original person is projecting it he

1145
00:49:58,370 --> 00:49:57,720
or she is sleeping or meditating or

1146
00:50:01,010 --> 00:49:58,380
something like that

1147
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:01,020
either that or I've read some things

1148
00:50:05,030 --> 00:50:02,610
where they're sort of running around

1149
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:05,040
with this projection covering them kind

1150
00:50:11,030 --> 00:50:09,450
of like a spirit animal suit yeah that

1151
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:11,040
looks real to the eyes that would that

1152
00:50:15,860 --> 00:50:13,290
would be a classic well in the den a

1153
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:15,870
tradition of skinwalker skinwalker

1154
00:50:21,710 --> 00:50:19,650
exactly yeah when I referred to my not

1155
00:50:27,020 --> 00:50:21,720
knowing of any sort of cryptozoological

1156
00:50:29,630 --> 00:50:27,030
legends about wolf man or dog man that's

1157
00:50:32,180 --> 00:50:29,640
not to say that that there I mean there

1158
00:50:34,910 --> 00:50:32,190
are traditions of shapeshifters of black

1159
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:34,920
adapts and shamans that are able to to

1160
00:50:41,990 --> 00:50:36,930
either mask their parents with with an

1161
00:50:45,740 --> 00:50:42,000
animal visage or I should say project

1162
00:50:49,250 --> 00:50:45,750
some sort of energy out there and in and

1163
00:50:53,270 --> 00:50:49,260
this is a very prevalent belief in the

1164
00:50:56,090 --> 00:50:53,280
Southwest and there had been some just I

1165
00:50:58,310 --> 00:50:56,100
digress here for a moment but I remember

1166
00:50:59,600 --> 00:50:58,320
I did a chapter in my book stalking the

1167
00:51:01,910 --> 00:50:59,610
tricksters and there is a chapter in

1168
00:51:03,710 --> 00:51:01,920
there on werewolves and I was able to

1169
00:51:05,240 --> 00:51:03,720
find some pretty interesting stories

1170
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:05,250
that go all the way back to the ancient

1171
00:51:09,340 --> 00:51:06,210
Greeks

1172
00:51:12,380 --> 00:51:09,350
I think Virgil in his book Satyricon

1173
00:51:14,210 --> 00:51:12,390
mentions a guy that one of the

1174
00:51:16,310 --> 00:51:14,220
characters it transforms into a wolf

1175
00:51:18,770 --> 00:51:16,320
we're gonna transform into something

1176
00:51:20,530 --> 00:51:18,780
else okay if we don't do this break and

1177
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:20,540
I don't want to tell you what that is

1178
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:23,610
let's translate I think into fired can

1179
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:25,410
send Donald Trump here and saying you're

1180
00:51:27,860 --> 00:51:25,890
fired

1181
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:27,870
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1182
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1230
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1232
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:11,500
here's Jane Steinberg thank heavens

1233
00:54:17,610 --> 00:54:15,850
Chris did not howl like I used to do

1234
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:17,620
that very well in my 20s and I'll

1235
00:54:24,990 --> 00:54:21,850
practice and see all the acquaintance of

1236
00:54:28,890 --> 00:54:25,000
mine John's a curly remember John's a

1237
00:54:31,890 --> 00:54:28,900
curly anyone you know exactly sure yeah

1238
00:54:34,530 --> 00:54:31,900
the radio the radio exactly I knew him a

1239
00:54:37,980 --> 00:54:34,540
little bit yeah yeah oh yeah but he'd go

1240
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:37,990
on there and he had this crazy song I'll

1241
00:54:44,130 --> 00:54:41,650
just recite the lyrics a dinner was set

1242
00:54:47,070 --> 00:54:44,140
for three attract ulis house by the sea

1243
00:54:49,620 --> 00:54:47,080
the others were fine but I choked on the

1244
00:54:55,260 --> 00:54:49,630
wine when I learned that the main course

1245
00:54:58,110 --> 00:54:55,270
was me okay well of course there's

1246
00:55:04,800 --> 00:54:58,120
Wolfman Jack let's not exactly that that

1247
00:55:08,010 --> 00:55:04,810
was on my mind to clap for the Wolfman

1248
00:55:10,310 --> 00:55:08,020
right his real name was Bob Smith he

1249
00:55:12,530 --> 00:55:10,320
came from Brooklyn New York Bob Smith

1250
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:12,540
[Laughter]

1251
00:55:23,490 --> 00:55:20,790
talk about shape-shifting and remember

1252
00:55:25,950 --> 00:55:23,500
him from America Rafi T sure yeah yo

1253
00:55:27,720 --> 00:55:25,960
George Lucas film where Harrison Ford

1254
00:55:29,730 --> 00:55:27,730
was in there and oh yeah

1255
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:29,740
Ron Howard before he became a director

1256
00:55:34,170 --> 00:55:31,690
why are we talking about this the

1257
00:55:37,410 --> 00:55:34,180
legends of world was why Linda Godfrey

1258
00:55:39,930 --> 00:55:37,420
are we so fascinated with men or women

1259
00:55:43,500 --> 00:55:39,940
who turn into wolves were are reputed to

1260
00:55:45,750 --> 00:55:43,510
well I think that idea that you know we

1261
00:55:47,700 --> 00:55:45,760
we look at the dog or the wolf which

1262
00:55:49,620 --> 00:55:47,710
they've always been our closest animal

1263
00:55:51,770 --> 00:55:49,630
companions I mean when they go back to

1264
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:51,780
the earliest prehistoric man they find

1265
00:55:57,660 --> 00:55:55,090
evidence of you know domesticated dogs

1266
00:56:00,480 --> 00:55:57,670
which started out as wolves as everybody

1267
00:56:04,020 --> 00:56:00,490
knows it's partly because we we share

1268
00:56:07,230 --> 00:56:04,030
this sort of bond with them but I also

1269
00:56:08,940 --> 00:56:07,240
think that we have a hard time the more

1270
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:08,950
civilized we get being

1271
00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:11,890
able to figure out how we can still have

1272
00:56:18,210 --> 00:56:15,730
our own wild urges and you know horrible

1273
00:56:19,859 --> 00:56:18,220
violent desires that crop up in people

1274
00:56:22,589 --> 00:56:19,869
now again you think a Jeffrey Dahmer and

1275
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:22,599
Ed Gein and people like that and it's

1276
00:56:28,859 --> 00:56:25,570
much easier psychologically for us to

1277
00:56:31,020 --> 00:56:28,869
displace that onto some kind of wild

1278
00:56:33,180 --> 00:56:31,030
animal and say well this wasn't really

1279
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:33,190
me it was this wild animal spirit that

1280
00:56:38,250 --> 00:56:36,490
took over me you know and even if we're

1281
00:56:40,230 --> 00:56:38,260
not claiming that we're doing that

1282
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:40,240
ourselves it's it's very entertaining to

1283
00:56:43,650 --> 00:56:42,130
think about it that way and think well

1284
00:56:46,020 --> 00:56:43,660
what if what every time I did something

1285
00:56:48,569 --> 00:56:46,030
bad you know it wasn't really me doing

1286
00:56:51,690 --> 00:56:48,579
it it was because of the spirit of this

1287
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:51,700
wild animal far as Jim Carrey said in

1288
00:56:57,930 --> 00:56:54,010
the movie the mask it wasn't me it was

1289
00:57:00,720 --> 00:56:57,940
the one-armed man yeah we always like to

1290
00:57:03,690 --> 00:57:00,730
blame someone else the flipside is that

1291
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:03,700
ancient hunters from way back on have

1292
00:57:07,890 --> 00:57:06,490
always coveted the hunting skills you

1293
00:57:09,810 --> 00:57:07,900
know and I think that a lot of the

1294
00:57:12,810 --> 00:57:09,820
desire to transform was to be able to

1295
00:57:16,290 --> 00:57:12,820
take on the superb intelligent and

1296
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:16,300
crafty and strong hunting skills that

1297
00:57:21,210 --> 00:57:18,970
they saw exhibited in packs of wolves

1298
00:57:23,660 --> 00:57:21,220
you know and I think that's part of

1299
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:23,670
those advertent Canyon pictographs is

1300
00:57:30,270 --> 00:57:26,530
they're trying to take on that prowess

1301
00:57:32,099 --> 00:57:30,280
of the wolf - it's just multifaceted of

1302
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:32,109
course there is a mental illness where

1303
00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:34,450
people believe you can turn into wolves

1304
00:57:39,470 --> 00:57:36,880
tell us about that yeah it's it's a kind

1305
00:57:42,420 --> 00:57:39,480
of psychosis known as lycanthropy and

1306
00:57:44,940 --> 00:57:42,430
some people who have it will deny that

1307
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:44,950
it's an illness but it is recognized in

1308
00:57:49,620 --> 00:57:47,290
psychiatric journals and the thing is

1309
00:57:53,190 --> 00:57:49,630
that researching it what I've learned is

1310
00:57:56,099 --> 00:57:53,200
that you can't really blame sightings of

1311
00:57:58,349 --> 00:57:56,109
wolf creatures on this because the

1312
00:58:00,690 --> 00:57:58,359
people may look in the mirror and see

1313
00:58:03,359 --> 00:58:00,700
themselves transformed into a wolf but

1314
00:58:06,540 --> 00:58:03,369
anybody else who looks at them will just

1315
00:58:08,910 --> 00:58:06,550
see maybe kind of a strangely behaving

1316
00:58:11,309 --> 00:58:08,920
human you know and there was one case

1317
00:58:14,010 --> 00:58:11,319
history that I cited of a woman who felt

1318
00:58:16,140 --> 00:58:14,020
that and she would just spontaneously

1319
00:58:17,970 --> 00:58:16,150
begin transforming into a wolf and that

1320
00:58:19,710 --> 00:58:17,980
she didn't have any control over it and

1321
00:58:21,900 --> 00:58:19,720
one time she was at Thanksgiving dinner

1322
00:58:22,620 --> 00:58:21,910
and actually stripped down and began

1323
00:58:24,390 --> 00:58:22,630
performing

1324
00:58:25,499 --> 00:58:24,400
mating rituals you know that's just

1325
00:58:28,049 --> 00:58:25,509
something you don't want to see your

1326
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:28,059
Aunt Hilda doing had a family gathering

1327
00:58:33,660 --> 00:58:30,130
what you must have been the life of the

1328
00:58:35,490 --> 00:58:33,670
party but to her you know she felt that

1329
00:58:37,109 --> 00:58:35,500
she was completely could see fur on her

1330
00:58:39,539 --> 00:58:37,119
arms she'd look in the mirror and see a

1331
00:58:41,490 --> 00:58:39,549
wolf's face but everybody else is just

1332
00:58:43,259 --> 00:58:41,500
seeing naked Aunt Hilda and that wasn't

1333
00:58:45,509 --> 00:58:43,269
her name I'm just just making that up

1334
00:58:48,990 --> 00:58:45,519
but I'm sure there's going to be someone

1335
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:49,000
named what is this I don't run around

1336
00:58:54,870 --> 00:58:52,450
naked pretending I'm a werewolf no no I

1337
00:58:55,950 --> 00:58:54,880
have I had an anthill to myself so I

1338
00:58:58,680 --> 00:58:55,960
guess that's where I'm getting the name

1339
00:59:00,450 --> 00:58:58,690
but but I've read other incidents where

1340
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:00,460
people felt that they were transforming

1341
00:59:05,519 --> 00:59:03,250
and while they personally could see fur

1342
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:05,529
and that sort of thing other people

1343
00:59:09,269 --> 00:59:07,690
looking at them did not you know which

1344
00:59:11,460 --> 00:59:09,279
tells you that it's something

1345
00:59:13,950 --> 00:59:11,470
originating in your own head so in that

1346
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:13,960
case it's always in your head there's no

1347
00:59:18,390 --> 00:59:16,450
evidence of a real transformation that

1348
00:59:20,579 --> 00:59:18,400
could possibly take place not from

1349
00:59:23,039 --> 00:59:20,589
anything that I've read people do seem

1350
00:59:25,769 --> 00:59:23,049
to have that have sometimes been able to

1351
00:59:27,059 --> 00:59:25,779
contort their muscles of their hands you

1352
00:59:29,460 --> 00:59:27,069
know so that they can appear more

1353
00:59:31,589 --> 00:59:29,470
claw-like but you don't see the nose

1354
00:59:34,019 --> 00:59:31,599
growing you don't see the first browning

1355
00:59:35,539 --> 00:59:34,029
on the face you don't see anything like

1356
00:59:38,220 --> 00:59:35,549
that really if you're just an observer

1357
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:38,230
why the legend if you're bitten by one

1358
00:59:43,289 --> 00:59:40,210
of these creatures it passes on the

1359
00:59:44,730 --> 00:59:43,299
condition the disease is that also the

1360
00:59:48,390 --> 00:59:44,740
science fiction writer who created

1361
00:59:50,670 --> 00:59:48,400
Wolfman yeah as far as I can tell you

1362
00:59:53,130 --> 00:59:50,680
know I haven't found that in the ancient

1363
00:59:55,289 --> 00:59:53,140
literature in the ancient literature

1364
01:00:00,329 --> 00:59:55,299
it's more often received either as a

1365
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:00,339
gift from the devil or some sort of just

1366
01:00:05,549 --> 01:00:03,250
just transformational magic type of

1367
01:00:08,460 --> 01:00:05,559
thing and sometimes a curse there's an

1368
01:00:11,279 --> 01:00:08,470
old legend that Saint Patrick in Ireland

1369
01:00:13,829 --> 01:00:11,289
was mad at some of the Druids for making

1370
01:00:15,900 --> 01:00:13,839
fun of his work when he was trying to

1371
01:00:18,210 --> 01:00:15,910
convert everyone to Christianity and so

1372
01:00:21,059 --> 01:00:18,220
that he cursed an entire clan of druids

1373
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:21,069
that had to them become werewolves every

1374
01:00:26,370 --> 01:00:23,890
so often but you see here for example

1375
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:26,380
that in general werewolves tend to be

1376
01:00:29,730 --> 01:00:28,210
evil I think true blood might be an

1377
01:00:32,519 --> 01:00:29,740
exception because there they could be

1378
01:00:35,009 --> 01:00:32,529
just guard dogs you know well work at

1379
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:35,019
the behest of vampires but in general if

1380
01:00:38,490 --> 01:00:36,250
you become a wearable

1381
01:00:40,860 --> 01:00:38,500
you're out to eat someone or just kill

1382
01:00:42,060 --> 01:00:40,870
him in the traditional mode you know

1383
01:00:44,190 --> 01:00:42,070
that's the general idea

1384
01:00:46,050 --> 01:00:44,200
and you go back to things like the Beast

1385
01:00:50,790 --> 01:00:46,060
of Gevaudan which was something that

1386
01:00:53,010 --> 01:00:50,800
just scavenged and terrified France you

1387
01:00:54,420 --> 01:00:53,020
know and I don't have the exact dates

1388
01:00:59,040 --> 01:00:54,430
right in front of me so I won't make a

1389
01:01:00,240 --> 01:00:59,050
guess but it was centuries ago and this

1390
01:01:03,330 --> 01:01:00,250
thing actually

1391
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:03,340
whatever it was killed many people and

1392
01:01:09,660 --> 01:01:06,970
farm animals quite a few and they never

1393
01:01:11,970 --> 01:01:09,670
really of course were able to prove that

1394
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:11,980
it was a human becoming a wolf but they

1395
01:01:17,700 --> 01:01:15,490
did find an extremely at least one maybe

1396
01:01:19,500 --> 01:01:17,710
two extremely large wolf like animals

1397
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:19,510
one even looked like a hyena there are

1398
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:22,090
so many theories about it but that was

1399
01:01:27,690 --> 01:01:25,330
much closer to the medieval idea of what

1400
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:27,700
a werewolf was you know it was a

1401
01:01:32,610 --> 01:01:29,410
wolf-like creature that had some

1402
01:01:35,250 --> 01:01:32,620
supernatural prowess and that did indeed

1403
01:01:38,970 --> 01:01:35,260
kill and eat people and farm animals

1404
01:01:41,940 --> 01:01:38,980
busy creature busy creature very much

1405
01:01:45,810 --> 01:01:41,950
labor yeah no you want one you want to

1406
01:01:48,150 --> 01:01:45,820
wanted have been around their place

1407
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:48,160
where I would expect almost anything to

1408
01:01:54,990 --> 01:01:50,410
be I'm just a city boy so I don't think

1409
01:01:57,150 --> 01:01:55,000
that in Phoenix I'm gonna see a werewolf

1410
01:01:59,160 --> 01:01:57,160
but you might wherever

1411
01:02:01,380 --> 01:01:59,170
Chris lives down in the country there

1412
01:02:03,420 --> 01:02:01,390
yeah did you see that 15-foot

1413
01:02:09,690 --> 01:02:03,430
rattlesnake they found in a culvert down

1414
01:02:11,610 --> 01:02:09,700
there in Mesa they do show up in cities

1415
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:11,620
you know and remind me you know Chris

1416
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:13,570
had to remind me he's always got mister

1417
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:18,730
element you need a good trickster yes of

1418
01:02:21,090 --> 01:02:19,210
course

1419
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:21,100
yeah you're right they do there have

1420
01:02:29,550 --> 01:02:24,010
been reports of these things in towns in

1421
01:02:34,290 --> 01:02:29,560
cities and and I remember researching my

1422
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:34,300
chapter in my book of like you said a

1423
01:02:42,390 --> 01:02:39,370
scourge of reports of attacks of animals

1424
01:02:44,850 --> 01:02:42,400
even of people and they do tend to come

1425
01:02:46,770 --> 01:02:44,860
in waves and then they disappear and

1426
01:02:48,900 --> 01:02:46,780
nobody could figure out you know where

1427
01:02:49,860 --> 01:02:48,910
it came from and where it went but how

1428
01:02:51,990 --> 01:02:49,870
about some more

1429
01:02:53,970 --> 01:02:52,000
urban type accounts that that you've

1430
01:02:56,430 --> 01:02:53,980
encountered well you know one that

1431
01:02:58,430 --> 01:02:56,440
really shocked me I just really couldn't

1432
01:03:02,010 --> 01:02:58,440
believe it at first was I got a report

1433
01:03:05,190 --> 01:03:02,020
some years ago of three young women who

1434
01:03:07,410 --> 01:03:05,200
had been at Brookfield mall which is

1435
01:03:10,890 --> 01:03:07,420
just south of Milwaukee and it's really

1436
01:03:13,230 --> 01:03:10,900
heavily industrialized a commercialized

1437
01:03:16,230 --> 01:03:13,240
I should say is more like it and a

1438
01:03:20,070 --> 01:03:16,240
residential area lots of you know

1439
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:20,080
densely populated places and these they

1440
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:22,090
were getting on a clover leaf just

1441
01:03:26,460 --> 01:03:23,890
leaving the mall area which is a huge

1442
01:03:28,470 --> 01:03:26,470
mall great big huge shopping center and

1443
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:28,480
it's like you know eight lane highways

1444
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:30,730
they don't like a big shopping mall in

1445
01:03:35,010 --> 01:03:33,010
any large city well they got free who

1446
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:35,020
will complete the story as they exit the

1447
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:37,330
mall what's gonna happen Jean and Chris

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you're in the para cast

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hey neighbors you've seen all those

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do you find all that stuff you go to as

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seen on tv comm because this is the

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buy gold if you believed that the

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Fed will stop handing out trillions of

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not what's happening

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you might even pass on gold if the

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stimulus package wouldn't fuel inflation

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or that the dollar wouldn't lose value

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the time to buy gold or the realists

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cast calm we're having a howling good

1560
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:14,860
time with Linda Godfrey looking for the

1561
01:08:20,070 --> 01:08:17,410
werewolves at a shopping mall in

1562
01:08:23,039 --> 01:08:20,080
Wisconsin on the para cast with Jeana

1563
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:23,049
and Kris Linda well yes they were just

1564
01:08:27,450 --> 01:08:25,690
making the loop to turn on to one of the

1565
01:08:29,940 --> 01:08:27,460
interstates that you can get on there

1566
01:08:32,490 --> 01:08:29,950
and they saw what they thought was a dog

1567
01:08:34,530 --> 01:08:32,500
crouching on the clover leaf and this

1568
01:08:36,450 --> 01:08:34,540
was December it was a little snowy they

1569
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:36,460
thought the poor thing might be cold so

1570
01:08:40,050 --> 01:08:37,690
they actually did what you're not

1571
01:08:42,599 --> 01:08:40,060
supposed to do and pulled over on this

1572
01:08:44,610 --> 01:08:42,609
clover leaf loop and got out of the car

1573
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:44,620
and went to go see if they could coax it

1574
01:08:48,480 --> 01:08:46,210
back into their car with him so they

1575
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:48,490
could rescue it the things stood up and

1576
01:08:53,730 --> 01:08:51,250
faced them and it was about six feet

1577
01:08:57,059 --> 01:08:53,740
tall looked like some kind of a wolfdog

1578
01:08:59,010 --> 01:08:57,069
hybrid and started coming after them so

1579
01:09:01,320 --> 01:08:59,020
of course they made it back to their car

1580
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:01,330
as quickly as possible and and zoomed

1581
01:09:05,490 --> 01:09:03,130
off and didn't see what became of it

1582
01:09:07,079 --> 01:09:05,500
well I thought that's kind of crazy how

1583
01:09:09,180 --> 01:09:07,089
could it possibly get through all that

1584
01:09:11,550 --> 01:09:09,190
commercial area and that those huge

1585
01:09:12,990 --> 01:09:11,560
highways and things but when I looked on

1586
01:09:15,030 --> 01:09:13,000
the map and this is something that I

1587
01:09:17,249 --> 01:09:15,040
always do and Google Earth makes it

1588
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:17,259
especially easy now when I looked on the

1589
01:09:21,930 --> 01:09:20,290
map I realized that all I had to do was

1590
01:09:24,570 --> 01:09:21,940
cross the cloverleaf and it would be on

1591
01:09:26,309 --> 01:09:24,580
the grounds of a very large Golf Course

1592
01:09:28,620 --> 01:09:26,319
which was of course shut down for the

1593
01:09:30,630 --> 01:09:28,630
month of December basically and that if

1594
01:09:32,130 --> 01:09:30,640
across that golf course it would come to

1595
01:09:34,769 --> 01:09:32,140
another one which then would lead to a

1596
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:34,779
river basin and a little hop skip and

1597
01:09:38,970 --> 01:09:36,970
jump and presto was out of Milwaukee

1598
01:09:42,030 --> 01:09:38,980
County sounds kind of like a Wolfman

1599
01:09:43,950 --> 01:09:42,040
corridor that it could use to get pretty

1600
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much from the country into the city

1601
01:09:47,789 --> 01:09:45,130
without being seen

1602
01:09:50,970 --> 01:09:47,799
corridor is a perfect word it's one that

1603
01:09:53,999 --> 01:09:50,980
I often use and I will find that no

1604
01:09:56,490 --> 01:09:54,009
matter how ludicrous the area seems when

1605
01:09:59,130 --> 01:09:56,500
something is reported if I map it out I

1606
01:10:02,220 --> 01:09:59,140
can always find water nearby and some

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01:10:03,899 --> 01:10:02,230
type of brush or cover even if it's just

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01:10:06,419 --> 01:10:03,909
an urban city power

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many of those parks have dense areas

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01:10:11,399 --> 01:10:08,709
that no one ever enter enters thickets

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bushes and things like that so they seem

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to be extremely able to get around is

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they like to and they have a real big

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advantage over Bigfoot Bigfoot if you

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see it sitting or walking or running or

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01:10:26,129 --> 01:10:24,429
whatever you're gonna know it's Bigfoot

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01:10:28,140 --> 01:10:26,139
you know generally Bigfoot is eight or

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nine feet tall and weighs five six

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01:10:34,140 --> 01:10:30,610
hundred pounds and looks ape-like this

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01:10:36,419 --> 01:10:34,150
creature from all witness of reports is

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01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:36,429
able to walk either on its hind legs or

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01:10:41,009 --> 01:10:39,010
all fours and goes back and forth quite

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01:10:43,140 --> 01:10:41,019
easily and I think that when it knows

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01:10:45,359 --> 01:10:43,150
it's in an urban area it will usually

1625
01:10:47,489 --> 01:10:45,369
drop to all fours so that people will

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01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:47,499
just say oh there's the really

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01:10:52,469 --> 01:10:50,650
strange-looking huge kind of dog hybrid

1628
01:10:53,459 --> 01:10:52,479
and I do get those reports from time to

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01:10:55,529 --> 01:10:53,469
time but they'll usually notice

1630
01:10:58,739 --> 01:10:55,539
something really unusual about it either

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01:11:00,390 --> 01:10:58,749
the way it acts or looks or something

1632
01:11:03,509 --> 01:11:00,400
like that that distinguishes it from

1633
01:11:05,939 --> 01:11:03,519
just your regular stray dog I think we

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go back of course to the origins we were

1635
01:11:11,429 --> 01:11:08,919
talking about earlier about werewolves

1636
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:11,439
tending to be seen in the so called

1637
01:11:16,409 --> 01:11:14,650
window areas so are we seeing creatures

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01:11:17,759 --> 01:11:16,419
that come from here or are they coming

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01:11:19,890 --> 01:11:17,769
from this other dimension or maybe

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01:11:22,529 --> 01:11:19,900
another time that accidentally or

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01:11:24,359 --> 01:11:22,539
deliberately come into our world to do

1642
01:11:26,429 --> 01:11:24,369
whatever or just go to the deer store

1643
01:11:29,179 --> 01:11:26,439
and buy some dinner well that would be

1644
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:29,189
the Native American belief and honestly

1645
01:11:33,750 --> 01:11:31,570
although you know I keep an open mind

1646
01:11:36,149 --> 01:11:33,760
because I can't prove that it's either

1647
01:11:39,239 --> 01:11:36,159
one either a spirit animal or a natural

1648
01:11:41,850 --> 01:11:39,249
animal until I get one which I somehow

1649
01:11:45,089 --> 01:11:41,860
doubt is going to happen but that really

1650
01:11:47,969 --> 01:11:45,099
does conform best to the facts of most

1651
01:11:50,009 --> 01:11:47,979
known sightings you know the reason the

1652
01:11:52,259 --> 01:11:50,019
idea that it doesn't want to actually

1653
01:11:55,589 --> 01:11:52,269
kill any people it just seems aggressive

1654
01:11:58,020 --> 01:11:55,599
that it's often seen busily collecting

1655
01:12:00,540 --> 01:11:58,030
some kind of animal protein and that's

1656
01:12:02,759 --> 01:12:00,550
what my native sources have told me that

1657
01:12:04,919 --> 01:12:02,769
when they're here the fully corporeal

1658
01:12:07,379 --> 01:12:04,929
their physical they need to feed on

1659
01:12:09,870 --> 01:12:07,389
something for energy but when they want

1660
01:12:12,959 --> 01:12:09,880
to they go back through the portal or

1661
01:12:14,939 --> 01:12:12,969
the door or the window or whatever you

1662
01:12:17,689 --> 01:12:14,949
want to call it for many Native

1663
01:12:21,229 --> 01:12:17,699
Americans that would involve fresh water

1664
01:12:24,739 --> 01:12:21,239
Springs and that is often a component of

1665
01:12:27,350 --> 01:12:24,749
a sightings habitat but I do have to add

1666
01:12:29,689 --> 01:12:27,360
that the window areas really seems to

1667
01:12:32,270 --> 01:12:29,699
apply only to the real hot spots because

1668
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:32,280
there can be lone sightings just about

1669
01:12:37,189 --> 01:12:34,530
anywhere you know they they don't always

1670
01:12:40,449 --> 01:12:37,199
conform to the hot spot areas that being

1671
01:12:43,759 --> 01:12:40,459
said I did unearth a really interesting

1672
01:12:46,609 --> 01:12:43,769
connection between southern Wisconsin

1673
01:12:50,390 --> 01:12:46,619
hot spots and very ancient american

1674
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:50,400
native american formations called animal

1675
01:12:56,419 --> 01:12:53,010
effigy mounds and these are ancient

1676
01:12:59,540 --> 01:12:56,429
mounds sculpted in the form of kind of

1677
01:13:01,430 --> 01:12:59,550
abstract depictions of all different

1678
01:13:04,370 --> 01:13:01,440
types of animals and here's an

1679
01:13:07,399 --> 01:13:04,380
astounding fact wisconsin particularly

1680
01:13:10,759 --> 01:13:07,409
southern wisconsin has something like 96

1681
01:13:13,819 --> 01:13:10,769
percent of all the world's known ancient

1682
01:13:16,069 --> 01:13:13,829
effigy mounds there are a few that

1683
01:13:17,629 --> 01:13:16,079
overlap onto you know the neighboring

1684
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:17,639
states and then you've got the Serpent

1685
01:13:26,299 --> 01:13:23,130
Mound in Ohio and amazing in fact it is

1686
01:13:28,100 --> 01:13:26,309
it is and they were made by people who

1687
01:13:30,919 --> 01:13:28,110
were here before any of the modern

1688
01:13:33,350 --> 01:13:30,929
tribes although something that they were

1689
01:13:36,709 --> 01:13:33,360
ancestors of the present-day ho-chunk

1690
01:13:40,189 --> 01:13:36,719
tribe and I have interviewed a whole

1691
01:13:42,169 --> 01:13:40,199
chunk elder but I couldn't get that

1692
01:13:45,620 --> 01:13:42,179
interview until I discovered this fact

1693
01:13:47,930 --> 01:13:45,630
which was that I was looking at a map of

1694
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:47,940
these effigy mound sightings that were

1695
01:13:54,410 --> 01:13:51,090
grouped by predominating types of

1696
01:13:57,229 --> 01:13:54,420
animals and there was one called the

1697
01:13:59,120 --> 01:13:57,239
water Panther mound or more accurately

1698
01:14:01,759 --> 01:13:59,130
the first settlers called it the lizard

1699
01:14:04,100 --> 01:14:01,769
mom because it had a long tail but the

1700
01:14:07,370 --> 01:14:04,110
most accurate way to describe it would

1701
01:14:09,649 --> 01:14:07,380
be as a water spirit moaned and what I

1702
01:14:11,689 --> 01:14:09,659
learned is that they really don't want

1703
01:14:14,540 --> 01:14:11,699
to talk about the water spirit moans

1704
01:14:17,719 --> 01:14:14,550
there was a water spirit clan at one

1705
01:14:20,509 --> 01:14:17,729
time that doesn't really exist very much

1706
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:20,519
anymore but I was shown a secret ancient

1707
01:14:24,949 --> 01:14:22,530
insignia that I had to swear I wouldn't

1708
01:14:27,290 --> 01:14:24,959
reproduce anywhere that showed the water

1709
01:14:29,810 --> 01:14:27,300
spirit mount and what I can or the water

1710
01:14:31,660 --> 01:14:29,820
spirit creature whatever it was and it

1711
01:14:35,270 --> 01:14:31,670
was bipedal and had

1712
01:14:37,850 --> 01:14:35,280
two tall pointed ears let me ask you why

1713
01:14:40,279 --> 01:14:37,860
can't you disclose it because it's

1714
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:40,289
private tribal knowledge and they they

1715
01:14:44,089 --> 01:14:42,210
don't want it to be let out but what I

1716
01:14:47,540 --> 01:14:44,099
guess I didn't make clear what I my

1717
01:14:49,459 --> 01:14:47,550
discovery was which was that everywhere

1718
01:14:52,250 --> 01:14:49,469
there was a concentration of these water

1719
01:14:56,899 --> 01:14:52,260
spirit mounds there was also a dog man

1720
01:14:59,419 --> 01:14:56,909
sighting hotspot and I had a map of mice

1721
01:15:02,510 --> 01:14:59,429
dog man sighting hot spots and when I

1722
01:15:05,930 --> 01:15:02,520
overlaid the two it was astounding they

1723
01:15:08,450 --> 01:15:05,940
just matched up perfectly far too great

1724
01:15:10,100 --> 01:15:08,460
for quince and coincidence and the

1725
01:15:13,939 --> 01:15:10,110
ho-chunk were very very interested in

1726
01:15:17,359 --> 01:15:13,949
that the precursor a group of Indians

1727
01:15:19,879 --> 01:15:17,369
that was at The Woodlands or the

1728
01:15:23,390 --> 01:15:19,889
woodland Indians of the Miami group that

1729
01:15:25,580 --> 01:15:23,400
built the mounds they don't really know

1730
01:15:28,790 --> 01:15:25,590
for sure they they refer to them as

1731
01:15:31,729 --> 01:15:28,800
prehistoric and somewhere in that

1732
01:15:34,970 --> 01:15:31,739
woodland timeframe but they don't really

1733
01:15:37,490 --> 01:15:34,980
know who the exact people were there is

1734
01:15:39,589 --> 01:15:37,500
a big link to the ho-chunk in that the

1735
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:39,599
types of animals represented in these

1736
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:42,570
effigy mounds match up very closely to

1737
01:15:47,569 --> 01:15:45,570
the ho-chunk totem animals and the whole

1738
01:15:48,620 --> 01:15:47,579
chunk you know seemed to have some some

1739
01:15:51,410 --> 01:15:48,630
knowledge there they're pretty

1740
01:15:53,660 --> 01:15:51,420
closed-mouthed about it all but it was

1741
01:15:55,660 --> 01:15:53,670
pretty astounding to see they were

1742
01:15:57,709 --> 01:15:55,670
pretty amazed to see how closely those

1743
01:15:59,720 --> 01:15:57,719
matched up and that's why they were

1744
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willing to give me a little bit of

1745
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insight information but I had to promise

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not to not to reproduce the actual sign

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we're exploring real wolf men not the

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fake ones I'm going to ask about the

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fake ones in a moment and ask about some

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you know I'll get a report that just

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01:21:33,350 --> 01:21:30,930
doesn't quite set right you know there

1869
01:21:35,900 --> 01:21:33,360
are usually a few red flags and remember

1870
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:35,910
I well I know one gets by me now and

1871
01:21:40,820 --> 01:21:38,850
then you know I think I can weed out the

1872
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:40,830
majority because I did work for the

1873
01:21:46,729 --> 01:21:44,010
newspaper for ten years and that every

1874
01:21:48,890 --> 01:21:46,739
week I would be interviewing somebody on

1875
01:21:50,690 --> 01:21:48,900
something usually not on werewolf's I

1876
01:21:52,580 --> 01:21:50,700
only wrote maybe three or four stories

1877
01:21:54,650 --> 01:21:52,590
on that total within the ten years that

1878
01:21:55,970 --> 01:21:54,660
I worked at the newspaper the rest of

1879
01:21:57,800 --> 01:21:55,980
the time it was just you know regular

1880
01:22:00,080 --> 01:21:57,810
people and you get a good sense for when

1881
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:00,090
people are putting you on or or trying

1882
01:22:05,450 --> 01:22:03,090
to make something up however there are

1883
01:22:08,060 --> 01:22:05,460
hoaxers out there and I think it's crazy

1884
01:22:10,850 --> 01:22:08,070
to deny that it's possible that a very

1885
01:22:13,459 --> 01:22:10,860
small percentage of people who report to

1886
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:13,469
me are giving me honest reports of

1887
01:22:16,340 --> 01:22:15,930
seeing somebody you know in a fur suit

1888
01:22:17,870 --> 01:22:16,350
that

1889
01:22:19,850 --> 01:22:17,880
they maybe didn't have great viewing

1890
01:22:22,610 --> 01:22:19,860
conditions and and couldn't see too well

1891
01:22:24,890 --> 01:22:22,620
so that's possible but there could not

1892
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:24,900
possibly be enough of them of these

1893
01:22:29,090 --> 01:22:27,210
hoaxed incidents to account for all the

1894
01:22:30,620 --> 01:22:29,100
reports I've gotten you may have might

1895
01:22:31,130 --> 01:22:30,630
have heard that I think was maybe two

1896
01:22:35,990 --> 01:22:31,140
months ago

1897
01:22:38,270 --> 01:22:36,000
a man in Montana was out trying to spoof

1898
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:38,280
a Bigfoot sighting and he had a fur suit

1899
01:22:42,290 --> 01:22:40,890
and was running out in front of cars and

1900
01:22:45,290 --> 01:22:42,300
of course was I think hit by two

1901
01:22:47,540 --> 01:22:45,300
different cars and totally killed which

1902
01:22:49,790 --> 01:22:47,550
I've been warning people about for years

1903
01:22:54,590 --> 01:22:49,800
yeah that definitely is a Darwin Award

1904
01:22:57,770 --> 01:22:54,600
no hexie actually exactly you know and

1905
01:22:59,780 --> 01:22:57,780
if you're caught out of that I mean I I

1906
01:23:01,160 --> 01:22:59,790
think a case could be made for

1907
01:23:03,370 --> 01:23:01,170
committing public fraud but it's

1908
01:23:05,750 --> 01:23:03,380
definitely endangering the public safety

1909
01:23:07,790 --> 01:23:05,760
because you know even if you weren't

1910
01:23:09,410 --> 01:23:07,800
hurt or killed somebody could go off the

1911
01:23:11,780 --> 01:23:09,420
road looking at you and then you'd be

1912
01:23:13,070 --> 01:23:11,790
responsible you know for for whatever

1913
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:13,080
happened in that crash

1914
01:23:19,580 --> 01:23:16,650
but I've also written about other just

1915
01:23:22,580 --> 01:23:19,590
real full-on hoaxes such as the

1916
01:23:24,440 --> 01:23:22,590
so-called gable film from Michigan have

1917
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:24,450
you guys heard of that one well kind of

1918
01:23:28,790 --> 01:23:25,890
rings a bell but watch refresh our

1919
01:23:32,870 --> 01:23:28,800
memory well this all started some years

1920
01:23:37,310 --> 01:23:32,880
ago with the collaboration of an amateur

1921
01:23:40,190 --> 01:23:37,320
filmmaker who just for fun made kind of

1922
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:40,200
a spooky film that was supposed to

1923
01:23:48,140 --> 01:23:43,290
depict an attack by the Michigan Dogman

1924
01:23:52,340 --> 01:23:48,150
and he happened to be a 70s buffin had

1925
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:52,350
70s vehicles and sheriff uniforms and

1926
01:23:56,480 --> 01:23:54,330
film and a camera and that sort of thing

1927
01:23:58,250 --> 01:23:56,490
so he was trying to give it the look of

1928
01:24:00,560 --> 01:23:58,260
something that happened back in the 70s

1929
01:24:03,440 --> 01:24:00,570
and it actually was him wearing a

1930
01:24:05,780 --> 01:24:03,450
ghillie suit but the footage was so

1931
01:24:08,450 --> 01:24:05,790
grainy and blurred that a you couldn't

1932
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:08,460
see what it was and my comment back at

1933
01:24:13,340 --> 01:24:10,890
the time which was about 2007 was that

1934
01:24:15,140 --> 01:24:13,350
the thing never stood up so how would

1935
01:24:18,260 --> 01:24:15,150
you know it was a dog man maybe it was a

1936
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:18,270
bear maybe it was anything well the film

1937
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:21,330
was being touted by a trapper City disc

1938
01:24:27,730 --> 01:24:24,090
jockey named Steve Cooke who happened to

1939
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:27,740
be the person who wrote the legend which

1940
01:24:32,150 --> 01:24:30,210
told all about the Michigan Dogman

1941
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:32,160
that he originally intended to be an

1942
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:34,290
April Fool's joke but which when he

1943
01:24:40,370 --> 01:24:38,610
played it on air back in 1987 people

1944
01:24:42,350 --> 01:24:40,380
started calling in and saying hey that's

1945
01:24:44,090 --> 01:24:42,360
no April Fool's joke I saw that or my

1946
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:44,100
grandfather saw it or you know we've got

1947
01:24:49,430 --> 01:24:46,170
the Manistee forest is full of them and

1948
01:24:51,110 --> 01:24:49,440
he discovered that you know he had an

1949
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:51,120
actual phenomena but it just somehow

1950
01:24:58,550 --> 01:24:53,489
never took hold nationally or became

1951
01:25:01,010 --> 01:24:58,560
known so they actually put out a second

1952
01:25:04,540 --> 01:25:01,020
film and then things sort of started to

1953
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:04,550
unravel and both of them confessed on

1954
01:25:09,979 --> 01:25:07,530
national TV on the final season four

1955
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:09,989
finale of The History Channel's Monster

1956
01:25:16,330 --> 01:25:12,530
quest show the law of unintended

1957
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:16,340
consequences when you see these

1958
01:25:21,620 --> 01:25:19,290
werewolves or whatever they are are they

1959
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:21,630
ever accompanied by other creatures or

1960
01:25:28,060 --> 01:25:23,730
is it just them by themselves or with

1961
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:28,070
their prey I've never heard of them

1962
01:25:33,650 --> 01:25:30,810
appearing in concert with other

1963
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:33,660
creatures although they're often seen in

1964
01:25:39,229 --> 01:25:36,690
the same areas as as Bigfoot but not

1965
01:25:43,220 --> 01:25:39,239
together that I know of but they do

1966
01:25:44,390 --> 01:25:43,230
appear in multiples which to me implies

1967
01:25:46,430 --> 01:25:44,400
that there could be a breeding

1968
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:46,440
population because you would certainly

1969
01:25:51,590 --> 01:25:49,650
need multiples for that and I've had

1970
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:51,600
people report two three four and even

1971
01:25:56,420 --> 01:25:53,610
five which is one of the scariest

1972
01:25:57,290 --> 01:25:56,430
stories that I've ever heard would you

1973
01:26:00,950 --> 01:25:57,300
like to hear that story

1974
01:26:05,390 --> 01:26:00,960
so what's incoming impacts right right

1975
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:05,400
exactly and the one where five was seen

1976
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:08,730
they weren't just showing up all of a

1977
01:26:13,100 --> 01:26:10,489
sudden as five of them there was a

1978
01:26:15,740 --> 01:26:13,110
middle-aged professional couple in Maine

1979
01:26:17,930 --> 01:26:15,750
how am I remain who were sitting on

1980
01:26:19,370 --> 01:26:17,940
their front porch one night drinking

1981
01:26:21,950 --> 01:26:19,380
coffee and they had a spotlight with

1982
01:26:23,780 --> 01:26:21,960
them but the yard was dark they had a

1983
01:26:25,310 --> 01:26:23,790
pond where deer would sometimes show up

1984
01:26:27,380 --> 01:26:25,320
and then they'd shine the spotlight and

1985
01:26:29,150 --> 01:26:27,390
look at the deer you know was just their

1986
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:29,160
nighttime ritual well they got this

1987
01:26:32,510 --> 01:26:30,930
uneasy feeling while they're sitting

1988
01:26:34,790 --> 01:26:32,520
there in the dark and they shined the

1989
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:34,800
spotlight on the yard and there were

1990
01:26:40,459 --> 01:26:37,410
five seven foot tall wolf light

1991
01:26:42,440 --> 01:26:40,469
creatures walking upright slightly

1992
01:26:43,910 --> 01:26:42,450
hunched over as they often described but

1993
01:26:46,669 --> 01:26:43,920
basically on walking

1994
01:26:48,919 --> 01:26:46,679
their hind legs 20 feet away from them

1995
01:26:50,959 --> 01:26:48,929
creeping up flanking them there were

1996
01:26:53,750 --> 01:26:50,969
three on one side two on the other side

1997
01:26:58,070 --> 01:26:53,760
so they were employing a strategic

1998
01:27:00,830 --> 01:26:58,080
hunting ability in that case and 20 feet

1999
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:00,840
away is pretty darn close didn't get

2000
01:27:06,650 --> 01:27:03,449
much sleep that night they got no sleep

2001
01:27:09,140 --> 01:27:06,660
that night they backed into the house

2002
01:27:11,270 --> 01:27:09,150
and I've had extensive interviews with

2003
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:11,280
this couple and they both produce

2004
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:13,290
sketches for me some of which are shown

2005
01:27:18,310 --> 01:27:15,570
in the real Wolf Man book you know and

2006
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:18,320
they're just two of the most credible

2007
01:27:24,020 --> 01:27:21,330
normal regular people you'd ever want to

2008
01:27:28,010 --> 01:27:24,030
talk to and me but they backed into the

2009
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:28,020
house called 911 to call the game warden

2010
01:27:31,790 --> 01:27:30,210
the game warden said well just stay in

2011
01:27:33,290 --> 01:27:31,800
your house and lock the door and they

2012
01:27:35,330 --> 01:27:33,300
didn't even have any guns with them

2013
01:27:36,919 --> 01:27:35,340
because the wife made her husband keep

2014
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:36,929
the guns locked in the garage and they

2015
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:41,330
could get to the garage so they're very

2016
01:27:48,260 --> 01:27:46,530
sympathetic ever came out never did

2017
01:27:51,229 --> 01:27:48,270
anything you know just kind of like let

2018
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:51,239
me go back to sleep basically so they

2019
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:52,770
went upstairs in the house to where

2020
01:27:57,169 --> 01:27:54,449
their daughter was sleeping just to

2021
01:27:58,970 --> 01:27:57,179
check on her and they shined the

2022
01:28:00,800 --> 01:27:58,980
spotlight out the window down on the

2023
01:28:04,250 --> 01:28:00,810
yard and five pairs of yellow eyes

2024
01:28:06,470 --> 01:28:04,260
glowed back at them so evidently they

2025
01:28:07,790 --> 01:28:06,480
either followed lights flipping on as

2026
01:28:09,860 --> 01:28:07,800
the couple went through the house or

2027
01:28:11,810 --> 01:28:09,870
they just somehow knew where to go to

2028
01:28:14,209 --> 01:28:11,820
watch for them and the creatures stayed

2029
01:28:16,430 --> 01:28:14,219
out there all night long and then just

2030
01:28:18,260 --> 01:28:16,440
sort of slunk away sometime toward dawn

2031
01:28:19,820 --> 01:28:18,270
they didn't really see them leave but by

2032
01:28:22,310 --> 01:28:19,830
the time the Sun came up then they were

2033
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:22,320
gone but they stayed all night long they

2034
01:28:26,540 --> 01:28:24,210
left footprints they took pictures of

2035
01:28:31,189 --> 01:28:26,550
the footprints which didn't turn out

2036
01:28:32,930 --> 01:28:31,199
which I can vouch for for this very

2037
01:28:34,790 --> 01:28:32,940
often happens for some reason I don't

2038
01:28:37,820 --> 01:28:34,800
know why you know that or your battery

2039
01:28:40,189 --> 01:28:37,830
goes down in your camera but they moved

2040
01:28:44,570 --> 01:28:40,199
not too long after that because they

2041
01:28:48,500 --> 01:28:44,580
were just too on your eyes right I could

2042
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:48,510
just see the real-estate posting by its

2043
01:28:53,180 --> 01:28:51,090
secluded house with the Wolfman

2044
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:53,190
neighbors occasionally yeah you guys

2045
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:55,050
check out those neighbors in fact you

2046
01:28:57,620 --> 01:28:56,370
know we have neighbors at this news

2047
01:28:59,390 --> 01:28:57,630
place we're living at

2048
01:29:03,110 --> 01:28:59,400
and they have dogs and the dogs of

2049
01:29:04,250 --> 01:29:03,120
course decide to bark now what we're

2050
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:04,260
trying to sleep we'll have to talk to

2051
01:29:08,300 --> 01:29:05,370
the neighbors they seem like decent

2052
01:29:09,770 --> 01:29:08,310
people so I suppose they will make sure

2053
01:29:13,130 --> 01:29:09,780
that there's no problem of course I

2054
01:29:14,510 --> 01:29:13,140
wonder here now whether we'll go to the

2055
01:29:17,810 --> 01:29:14,520
neighbor's door there'll be nobody there

2056
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:17,820
but we'll see these canine creatures and

2057
01:29:24,170 --> 01:29:19,890
back and that's our neighbors you never

2058
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:24,180
know I realize that yes who knows what

2059
01:29:31,130 --> 01:29:28,010
evil lurks in the hearts of werewolves

2060
01:29:32,950 --> 01:29:31,140
right dog man why can't we call them

2061
01:29:36,710 --> 01:29:32,960
wolf women let's be politically correct

2062
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:36,720
well you know persons okay wolf persons

2063
01:29:44,630 --> 01:29:40,850
well both persons persons of wolfish

2064
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:44,640
descent I'm not sure there's any number

2065
01:29:48,380 --> 01:29:46,410
of terms and this is something I wrestle

2066
01:29:50,780 --> 01:29:48,390
with all the time you know publishers

2067
01:29:53,570 --> 01:29:50,790
like the term werewolf because it's much

2068
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:53,580
sexier than unknown upright canine which

2069
01:29:58,430 --> 01:29:55,290
i think is probably the truest

2070
01:30:02,330 --> 01:29:58,440
description of them so yeah real upright

2071
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:02,340
canines that's gonna be a sexy title for

2072
01:30:07,630 --> 01:30:05,610
a book werewolves of course because you

2073
01:30:10,460 --> 01:30:07,640
know wearables are so entrenched in our

2074
01:30:12,380 --> 01:30:10,470
popular culture plus it does give you a

2075
01:30:14,150 --> 01:30:12,390
pretty good mental image of this upright

2076
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:14,160
wolf like thing you know which is

2077
01:30:17,750 --> 01:30:16,410
generally how people describe them it's

2078
01:30:19,970 --> 01:30:17,760
just that they don't have any human

2079
01:30:22,190 --> 01:30:19,980
parts and they won't shrink back into

2080
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:22,200
lon chaney well I hope not that he's in

2081
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dead for many years for joining us with

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[Music]

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01:34:58,920 --> 01:34:57,370
this is 37 the author of us on the

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01:35:00,110 --> 01:34:58,930
streets and you're listening to the

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01:35:02,210 --> 01:35:00,120
podcast

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01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:02,220
[Music]

2185
01:35:07,790 --> 01:35:05,290
yes we're howling away here baying at

2186
01:35:10,170 --> 01:35:07,800
the moon as they say with Linda Godfrey

2187
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:10,180
looking at werewolves and we call them

2188
01:35:15,990 --> 01:35:12,970
werewolves because the title is sexy and

2189
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:16,000
that's it not even dog man you know it's

2190
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:19,210
got to be a werewolf animal once or

2191
01:35:23,130 --> 01:35:21,850
twice but never a wolf man you do find

2192
01:35:24,450 --> 01:35:23,140
that there are different names in

2193
01:35:26,730 --> 01:35:24,460
different parts of the country for

2194
01:35:28,980 --> 01:35:26,740
instance in Michigan it is the Michigan

2195
01:35:31,910 --> 01:35:28,990
Dogman I have one book by that title and

2196
01:35:33,900 --> 01:35:31,920
in other places down around

2197
01:35:37,230 --> 01:35:33,910
french-speaking portions of Louisiana

2198
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:37,240
Cajun areas it's the loup-garou or the

2199
01:35:43,290 --> 01:35:41,170
rougarou you'll find different terms in

2200
01:35:45,630 --> 01:35:43,300
different areas where people have no

2201
01:35:47,340 --> 01:35:45,640
idea that anybody else has this creature

2202
01:35:51,470 --> 01:35:47,350
in their place and to them it's just

2203
01:35:54,270 --> 01:35:51,480
always known by their local name so

2204
01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:54,280
different names but it seems to be the

2205
01:35:58,320 --> 01:35:56,170
same creature everywhere and it's caused

2206
01:36:00,390 --> 01:35:58,330
to Coast California to New York how

2207
01:36:01,650 --> 01:36:00,400
about other other like in South America

2208
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:01,660
and in Asia

2209
01:36:06,390 --> 01:36:03,810
do we have temporary reports I know they

2210
01:36:09,090 --> 01:36:06,400
historically there have been traditions

2211
01:36:11,730 --> 01:36:09,100
worldwide of these types of phenomenal

2212
01:36:14,460 --> 01:36:11,740
you know hybrid creatures but how about

2213
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:14,470
contemporary accounts coming from other

2214
01:36:18,330 --> 01:36:16,810
other parts of the world yeah

2215
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:18,340
there are a couple of guys who do a

2216
01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:21,250
really good job keeping track of South

2217
01:36:25,950 --> 01:36:24,130
American Central American tales of this

2218
01:36:28,770 --> 01:36:25,960
creature and I've recounted a few of

2219
01:36:30,390 --> 01:36:28,780
them in some of my books the word down

2220
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:30,400
there is usually lobizon

2221
01:36:36,540 --> 01:36:33,850
so it's again a different name but it

2222
01:36:39,900 --> 01:36:36,550
reacts in very similar and appears in

2223
01:36:41,580 --> 01:36:39,910
very similar ways to this creature one

2224
01:36:44,100 --> 01:36:41,590
common feature I know there's one of my

2225
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:44,110
favorite tales is that one of these

2226
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:46,210
creatures showed up at a family birthday

2227
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:48,970
party and I I'm thinking Argentina boy

2228
01:36:53,940 --> 01:36:50,650
once swear to it without looking it up

2229
01:36:55,950 --> 01:36:53,950
but they they this family was

2230
01:36:57,870 --> 01:36:55,960
celebrating a party and they looked out

2231
01:37:00,840 --> 01:36:57,880
and somebody I think one of the young

2232
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:00,850
boys saw this creature and ran out and

2233
01:37:03,450 --> 01:37:02,530
it started attacking the boy and so the

2234
01:37:06,150 --> 01:37:03,460
whole family ran

2235
01:37:08,700 --> 01:37:06,160
and started beating on it with spades

2236
01:37:10,650 --> 01:37:08,710
and hoes and baseball bats and whatever

2237
01:37:12,810 --> 01:37:10,660
else they could find until they subdued

2238
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:12,820
it and left it this kind of crumpled

2239
01:37:16,590 --> 01:37:14,410
mess on the ground and then they went

2240
01:37:18,330 --> 01:37:16,600
back in to decide what to do when they

2241
01:37:20,220 --> 01:37:18,340
looked out the window it picked itself

2242
01:37:22,980 --> 01:37:20,230
up and run away again

2243
01:37:25,140 --> 01:37:22,990
tough B's tough piece reminds me of this

2244
01:37:25,950 --> 01:37:25,150
character and the TV show alpha is about

2245
01:37:28,530 --> 01:37:25,960
mutants

2246
01:37:31,650 --> 01:37:28,540
where the guy drinks any calcium source

2247
01:37:35,850 --> 01:37:31,660
like milk and he's able to kind of

2248
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:35,860
reconstitute himself right it's like the

2249
01:37:40,590 --> 01:37:38,170
dog they called time acts in the fly

2250
01:37:44,460 --> 01:37:40,600
because he took a lickin and kept on

2251
01:37:47,970 --> 01:37:44,470
tickin still use that phrase that goes

2252
01:37:51,030 --> 01:37:47,980
back a few years but you know is that

2253
01:37:53,250 --> 01:37:51,040
that really great version of the fly

2254
01:37:55,890 --> 01:37:53,260
which I think it was a pretty good

2255
01:37:59,490 --> 01:37:55,900
monster movie but I like the original

2256
01:38:02,400 --> 01:37:59,500
fly I think David Hedison was the fly

2257
01:38:05,100 --> 01:38:02,410
and was Vincent Price in that movie I

2258
01:38:06,870 --> 01:38:05,110
like David Cronenberg version I didn't

2259
01:38:11,220 --> 01:38:06,880
dick it was just to get like Jeff

2260
01:38:13,770 --> 01:38:11,230
Goldblum is the fly no I liked him in a

2261
01:38:16,050 --> 01:38:13,780
bindle fly I liked him as a crazy

2262
01:38:18,990 --> 01:38:16,060
detective on Law & Order criminal intent

2263
01:38:25,410 --> 01:38:19,000
I liked him in a number of movies but

2264
01:38:27,150 --> 01:38:25,420
not as a fly saving his body parts in

2265
01:38:29,670 --> 01:38:27,160
the medicine cabinet that's kind of a

2266
01:38:32,100 --> 01:38:29,680
weird scene yeah exactly

2267
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:32,110
no I loved I loved that movie I'm a fan

2268
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:34,810
but the the corollary is you know I've

2269
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:36,970
had other people who happen to have a

2270
01:38:41,340 --> 01:38:39,610
firearm handy and tried to shoot it and

2271
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:41,350
it just backs away into the woods

2272
01:38:45,480 --> 01:38:42,970
doesn't appear to bleed even though

2273
01:38:47,610 --> 01:38:45,490
they're emptying clips of automatic ammo

2274
01:38:50,610 --> 01:38:47,620
into it and I'm sure they're hitting it

2275
01:38:52,470 --> 01:38:50,620
they don't seem to hit it so sometimes

2276
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:52,480
you know the creature isn't doing

2277
01:38:57,300 --> 01:38:54,850
anything overtly supernatural but when

2278
01:38:59,490 --> 01:38:57,310
you read all the circumstances you come

2279
01:39:01,740 --> 01:38:59,500
away with the feeling that there's

2280
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:01,750
something just not quite right

2281
01:39:07,410 --> 01:39:04,570
another thing is that people feel it has

2282
01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:07,420
this uncanny sentience about it that

2283
01:39:13,230 --> 01:39:09,970
it's very aware of them that it's

2284
01:39:15,580 --> 01:39:13,240
smarter than a normal wild animal or a

2285
01:39:19,210 --> 01:39:15,590
normal wild wolf would be

2286
01:39:22,330 --> 01:39:19,220
that it's it's got this attitude like

2287
01:39:26,620 --> 01:39:22,340
you can't get me I'm over here nanny

2288
01:39:32,290 --> 01:39:26,630
nanny boo-boo you know snarling just

2289
01:39:34,390 --> 01:39:32,300
very very aggressive and commanding in a

2290
01:39:37,450 --> 01:39:34,400
way and some people even feel that it's

2291
01:39:39,310 --> 01:39:37,460
sending them sort of a whether it's body

2292
01:39:41,830 --> 01:39:39,320
language or mental they're not sure it's

2293
01:39:43,270 --> 01:39:41,840
not like a thought bubble and King's

2294
01:39:45,130 --> 01:39:43,280
English but they'll feel that it's

2295
01:39:48,130 --> 01:39:45,140
sending some sort of message that they

2296
01:39:50,650 --> 01:39:48,140
understand like if you tell anybody you

2297
01:39:53,170 --> 01:39:50,660
saw me I'll get you your that it's ant

2298
01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:53,180
angry that the people saw these are

2299
01:39:57,070 --> 01:39:54,530
things that you just don't really think

2300
01:39:59,560 --> 01:39:57,080
about say if you run into a bear or a

2301
01:40:01,450 --> 01:39:59,570
while you know mountain lion or

2302
01:40:03,790 --> 01:40:01,460
something like that it's it's a very

2303
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:03,800
different reaction and that spooks

2304
01:40:08,110 --> 01:40:06,410
people out just as much or more than

2305
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:08,120
seeing it walking around on its hind

2306
01:40:13,390 --> 01:40:10,370
legs there's an are general perception

2307
01:40:15,460 --> 01:40:13,400
of wolves in such that we believe them

2308
01:40:19,540 --> 01:40:15,470
to be extremely intelligent creatures

2309
01:40:22,780 --> 01:40:19,550
anyway well they are you know I cite

2310
01:40:24,670 --> 01:40:22,790
some actual hunting strategies of wolves

2311
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:24,680
that have been observed and studied and

2312
01:40:28,480 --> 01:40:26,210
the more people study them the more they

2313
01:40:31,330 --> 01:40:28,490
realize how social they are and

2314
01:40:34,030 --> 01:40:31,340
interactive and and what different

2315
01:40:37,180 --> 01:40:34,040
personalities they have and they do

2316
01:40:39,700 --> 01:40:37,190
teach their young behaviors that are

2317
01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:39,710
helpful to their survival so they are

2318
01:40:44,650 --> 01:40:42,170
very very intelligent animals as it is

2319
01:40:47,980 --> 01:40:44,660
but our wolves supposedly made for life

2320
01:40:49,780 --> 01:40:47,990
right I guess so I think that's true you

2321
01:40:52,210 --> 01:40:49,790
know as long as one isn't injured or

2322
01:40:55,350 --> 01:40:52,220
killed or something of course wolves

2323
01:40:59,980 --> 01:40:55,360
don't have a judge or a lawyer who

2324
01:41:03,100 --> 01:40:59,990
quickly divorce not one would think so

2325
01:41:06,490 --> 01:41:03,110
there's no wolf in prenups not not that

2326
01:41:10,060 --> 01:41:06,500
anyone knows huh no no you mentioned

2327
01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:10,070
firearms and and these creatures uh at

2328
01:41:15,940 --> 01:41:13,130
times appearing to be oblivious of being

2329
01:41:19,510 --> 01:41:15,950
shot that opening scene and hunt for the

2330
01:41:22,540 --> 01:41:19,520
skinwalker has an unusually large you

2331
01:41:24,730 --> 01:41:22,550
know four to five foot tall wolf that

2332
01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:24,740
was shot at point-blank range and it

2333
01:41:29,229 --> 01:41:27,050
didn't it didn't seem to have any effect

2334
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:29,239
on it and it wasn't until

2335
01:41:33,940 --> 01:41:31,210
the last time I think he shot it with a

2336
01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:33,950
30.6 he actually knocked a hunk of meat

2337
01:41:39,250 --> 01:41:36,050
meter for something off it and then it

2338
01:41:41,170 --> 01:41:39,260
it finally looked away but that that's

2339
01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:41,180
an interesting I think that's an

2340
01:41:47,110 --> 01:41:43,850
interesting little little sidebar that

2341
01:41:50,740 --> 01:41:47,120
these these animals don't appear to to

2342
01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:50,750
be affected by you know by bullets

2343
01:41:56,170 --> 01:41:53,690
perhaps I think somebody makes a bullet

2344
01:42:00,130 --> 01:41:56,180
right that's silver-tipped maybe they're

2345
01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:00,140
maybe they need to get thee maybe

2346
01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:03,410
depleted uranium we need munitions on

2347
01:42:07,990 --> 01:42:05,810
you know overseas with depleted uranium

2348
01:42:09,100 --> 01:42:08,000
maybe that would have an impact I'll

2349
01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:09,110
tell you what let's just get some

2350
01:42:17,020 --> 01:42:13,730
phasers okay I will stun the world with

2351
01:42:18,250 --> 01:42:17,030
phasers set on stun or will vaporize it

2352
01:42:20,350 --> 01:42:18,260
that's it that's the only way with

2353
01:42:20,740 --> 01:42:20,360
werewolves or light sabers that would be

2354
01:42:26,590 --> 01:42:20,750
fun

2355
01:42:27,850 --> 01:42:26,600
Oh light sabers yes forget it I don't

2356
01:42:31,209 --> 01:42:27,860
know where we're getting into this using

2357
01:42:33,190 --> 01:42:31,219
light sabers to slay werewolves for fun

2358
01:42:35,290 --> 01:42:33,200
and profit or we can make it part of the

2359
01:42:38,110 --> 01:42:35,300
dummy series you know slaying werewolves

2360
01:42:39,790 --> 01:42:38,120
for dummies that's not a bad idea

2361
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:39,800
I'd write that book why don't you

2362
01:42:45,550 --> 01:42:43,370
propose it to me series they have a

2363
01:42:48,190 --> 01:42:45,560
flying saucers for dummies by the way I

2364
01:42:50,020 --> 01:42:48,200
think yeah it's probably already been

2365
01:42:51,940 --> 01:42:50,030
written I think every possible dummies

2366
01:42:53,530 --> 01:42:51,950
topic has been written I'm just

2367
01:42:55,540 --> 01:42:53,540
astounded at the ones that I see

2368
01:42:56,920 --> 01:42:55,550
actually call my friend Bob love why

2369
01:42:58,570 --> 01:42:56,930
does he writes a lot of the dummies

2370
01:43:02,890 --> 01:42:58,580
books but technology of course you know

2371
01:43:05,410 --> 01:43:02,900
like mac OS for dummies writing dummy

2372
01:43:09,070 --> 01:43:05,420
books for dummies that's probably there

2373
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:09,080
there was used to be a competing series

2374
01:43:12,850 --> 01:43:10,850
called the Complete Idiot's Guide

2375
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:12,860
Oh real trivia here we were talking

2376
01:43:18,220 --> 01:43:15,050
about the movie the fly and the original

2377
01:43:20,170 --> 01:43:18,230
version featured David Hedison who later

2378
01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:20,180
went to the young and restless they fly

2379
01:43:27,910 --> 01:43:23,210
he was also playing Felix Leiter the CIA

2380
01:43:29,590 --> 01:43:27,920
agent in some James Bond films was in

2381
01:43:31,090 --> 01:43:29,600
voyage to the bottom of the sea - that

2382
01:43:33,100 --> 01:43:31,100
was one of my favorite shows is a little

2383
01:43:34,930 --> 01:43:33,110
kid and the guy is still here

2384
01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:34,940
he's still alive I think retired for a

2385
01:43:40,660 --> 01:43:37,250
number of years we still alive maybe

2386
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:40,670
he's a werewolf Doreen I see I shouldn't

2387
01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:42,770
say I shouldn't say I'm joking I

2388
01:43:44,649 --> 01:43:43,130
shouldn't

2389
01:43:46,959 --> 01:43:44,659
things like that because I'll get emails

2390
01:43:48,490 --> 01:43:46,969
saying well you said so-and-so was

2391
01:43:51,129 --> 01:43:48,500
really a werewolf so you must really

2392
01:43:54,100 --> 01:43:51,139
believe in them and I don't I I do not

2393
01:43:57,820 --> 01:43:54,110
believe human beings turned corpuscle

2394
01:44:00,760 --> 01:43:57,830
for corpuscle nostril for nostril you

2395
01:44:02,410 --> 01:44:00,770
know joint for joint into werewolves

2396
01:44:04,149 --> 01:44:02,420
into wolves I really don't believe that

2397
01:44:07,149 --> 01:44:04,159
happens just for the record to be clear

2398
01:44:09,310 --> 01:44:07,159
I will even tell you what I think David

2399
01:44:11,860 --> 01:44:09,320
Hedison is a werewolf you're ready for

2400
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:11,870
this I have been married to the same

2401
01:44:25,540 --> 01:44:16,010
woman since 1968 well that's pretty good

2402
01:44:27,729 --> 01:44:25,550
he did for life we'll get a tweet from

2403
01:44:29,590 --> 01:44:27,739
David Hedison he's still listening that

2404
01:44:32,649 --> 01:44:29,600
would be great yeah tell us all about

2405
01:44:34,360 --> 01:44:32,659
the fly that would be wonderful or he'll

2406
01:44:41,140 --> 01:44:34,370
be a fly in the wall depending on your

2407
01:44:43,870 --> 01:44:41,150
point of view I think Chris we have to

2408
01:44:46,419 --> 01:44:43,880
agree with what our listeners say a lot

2409
01:44:52,300 --> 01:44:46,429
of our listeners say about Chris that he

2410
01:44:54,879 --> 01:44:52,310
definitely needs help what do you think

2411
01:44:57,550 --> 01:44:54,889
of the the recent Wolfman movie with

2412
01:45:00,399 --> 01:44:57,560
probably the only actor out there that

2413
01:45:02,919 --> 01:45:00,409
probably really didn't require very much

2414
01:45:05,830 --> 01:45:02,929
makeup he looks kinda like a Wolfman to

2415
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:05,840
begin with Benicio del Toro Benicio del

2416
01:45:14,620 --> 01:45:10,010
Toro I was fine you know I sure didn't

2417
01:45:15,970 --> 01:45:14,630
do well at the box office and there was

2418
01:45:17,770 --> 01:45:15,980
a twist at the end and I'll tell you

2419
01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:17,780
what the twist is in a moment we have

2420
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Linda Godfrey the subject is werewolves

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with Gene and Kris you're in the para

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here's James Steinberg the final four

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segments ladies and gentlemen the remake

2484
01:48:10,060 --> 01:48:08,210
of The Wolfman Anthony Hopkins plays his

2485
01:48:13,510 --> 01:48:10,070
father that was the Claude Rains role in

2486
01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:13,520
the original 1941 version I thought was

2487
01:48:17,410 --> 01:48:14,570
a bad film

2488
01:48:21,310 --> 01:48:17,420
I thought the spoiler are making Anthony

2489
01:48:24,280 --> 01:48:21,320
Hopkins the werewolf who bit his son and

2490
01:48:26,050 --> 01:48:24,290
made him a werewolf too was just you

2491
01:48:29,740 --> 01:48:26,060
know not the way to do it in the

2492
01:48:33,010 --> 01:48:29,750
original movie Bela Lugosi bit Lon

2493
01:48:33,580 --> 01:48:33,020
Chaney jr. to make him the Wolfman there

2494
01:48:35,770 --> 01:48:33,590
you go

2495
01:48:38,110 --> 01:48:35,780
I don't mind spoiling a movie when I

2496
01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:38,120
think it was really badly done it tried

2497
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:40,850
loosely to follow the 1941 version but

2498
01:48:45,270 --> 01:48:41,810
it's one of those things where they make

2499
01:48:47,440 --> 01:48:45,280
a remake of a movie and you wonder why

2500
01:48:49,570 --> 01:48:47,450
doesn't the original movie like The Day

2501
01:48:52,690 --> 01:48:49,580
the Earth Stood Still come up as a

2502
01:48:55,990 --> 01:48:52,700
classic why did you have to get forget

2503
01:48:57,730 --> 01:48:56,000
it why'd you have to have a remake let's

2504
01:48:59,290 --> 01:48:57,740
get back to werewolves there's a

2505
01:49:00,880 --> 01:48:59,300
question by way in our forms like just

2506
01:49:04,090 --> 01:49:00,890
one question and Chris did you want to

2507
01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:04,100
check into and it comes from solarian

2508
01:49:09,850 --> 01:49:06,170
who's one of our newest members of the

2509
01:49:11,290 --> 01:49:09,860
forum dr. Peric ask.com family and he

2510
01:49:12,790 --> 01:49:11,300
says I would like to and he's not a

2511
01:49:15,310 --> 01:49:12,800
werewolf by the way I want to tell you

2512
01:49:17,050 --> 01:49:15,320
right now as far as I know Silurian is

2513
01:49:19,150 --> 01:49:17,060
not a world he might have said well

2514
01:49:20,890 --> 01:49:19,160
we're not a werewolf question please

2515
01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:20,900
well he would like to hear you retell

2516
01:49:25,690 --> 01:49:23,690
the story of a man dog who stole a

2517
01:49:27,370 --> 01:49:25,700
trailer hitch from a Wisconsin resident

2518
01:49:29,860 --> 01:49:27,380
that is one of the strangest Wolfman

2519
01:49:33,910 --> 01:49:29,870
cases I've ever heard over the radio who

2520
01:49:36,250 --> 01:49:33,920
stole a trailer hitch that's that's why

2521
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:36,260
I'm drawing a total blank on that you

2522
01:49:41,830 --> 01:49:39,290
know he's he's not talking about a

2523
01:49:45,190 --> 01:49:41,840
Wisconsin man contracting for the dnr

2524
01:49:47,380 --> 01:49:45,200
who had oh I know he stole it wasn't a

2525
01:49:50,260 --> 01:49:47,390
trailer hitch it was an aluminum ATV

2526
01:49:52,690 --> 01:49:50,270
ramp that's what he's talking about this

2527
01:49:55,750 --> 01:49:52,700
man was this man was contracting for the

2528
01:49:58,959 --> 01:49:55,760
DNR as a deer carcass picker-upper for

2529
01:50:02,500 --> 01:49:58,969
lack of a better phrase and this happen

2530
01:50:05,770 --> 01:50:02,510
north of Milwaukee by a huge Catholic

2531
01:50:08,770 --> 01:50:05,780
twin spires shrine called holy hill

2532
01:50:10,390 --> 01:50:08,780
which is a hilled it's long long been

2533
01:50:12,910 --> 01:50:10,400
considered sacred and then there's this

2534
01:50:14,890 --> 01:50:12,920
beautiful big Catholic shrine built on

2535
01:50:16,689 --> 01:50:14,900
top of it and their spires are lit up

2536
01:50:20,109 --> 01:50:16,699
and it was right across from the

2537
01:50:23,469 --> 01:50:20,119
entrance to this this shrine which is

2538
01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:23,479
very hilly wooded somewhat suburbia

2539
01:50:27,759 --> 01:50:26,210
rural area but there's nobody around at

2540
01:50:29,770 --> 01:50:27,769
3:00 in the morning and he made his

2541
01:50:31,239 --> 01:50:29,780
rounds in the wee hours when he wouldn't

2542
01:50:32,589 --> 01:50:31,249
get run over getting out of his truck

2543
01:50:36,790 --> 01:50:32,599
and picking up these deer well he came

2544
01:50:40,239 --> 01:50:36,800
across one that was small enough that he

2545
01:50:42,219 --> 01:50:40,249
didn't need to get his aluminum ATV

2546
01:50:43,870 --> 01:50:42,229
ramps out in order to shove it up onto

2547
01:50:46,810 --> 01:50:43,880
the truck that's why he had those in the

2548
01:50:49,540 --> 01:50:46,820
back of his truck so he threw it on top

2549
01:50:51,629 --> 01:50:49,550
of these ramps and then he got back at

2550
01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:51,639
his cabbie had all the light he had the

2551
01:50:57,100 --> 01:50:54,530
cab light flashing on top he had the

2552
01:50:58,959 --> 01:50:57,110
inner light on all the lights on his

2553
01:51:01,209 --> 01:50:58,969
truck were going so it was pretty well

2554
01:51:03,310 --> 01:51:01,219
lit and he had to fill out paperwork

2555
01:51:05,799 --> 01:51:03,320
because it wasn't on his list so he's

2556
01:51:07,299 --> 01:51:05,809
sitting there writing and all of a

2557
01:51:09,729 --> 01:51:07,309
sudden his truck rocks

2558
01:51:11,620 --> 01:51:09,739
pato like that anything so that's weird

2559
01:51:13,989 --> 01:51:11,630
it must be the wind but no there is no

2560
01:51:16,479 --> 01:51:13,999
wind so then it did it again and he

2561
01:51:19,270 --> 01:51:16,489
looked in the gigantic sideview truck

2562
01:51:21,759 --> 01:51:19,280
mirror and he saw something standing

2563
01:51:23,500 --> 01:51:21,769
that was six to seven feet had to be six

2564
01:51:25,750 --> 01:51:23,510
to seven feet tall for it to be showing

2565
01:51:28,629 --> 01:51:25,760
with the head of a wolf but then this

2566
01:51:31,689 --> 01:51:28,639
sort of muscular shoulder area and it

2567
01:51:34,239 --> 01:51:31,699
was reaching with one paw into the back

2568
01:51:35,859 --> 01:51:34,249
of his pickup truck and now then this

2569
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:35,869
guy I've come to know very well he

2570
01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:38,570
stands well over six feet tall he's an

2571
01:51:46,509 --> 01:51:41,570
inveterate outdoorsman his name is Steve

2572
01:51:49,390 --> 01:51:46,519
Kruger and he even has an outdoors

2573
01:51:52,270 --> 01:51:49,400
magazine that he publishes so he knows

2574
01:51:54,069 --> 01:51:52,280
his animals and he was running through

2575
01:51:55,839 --> 01:51:54,079
the possible list and when he realized

2576
01:51:59,770 --> 01:51:55,849
he couldn't recognize what this thing

2577
01:52:02,229 --> 01:51:59,780
was sheer terror took over and he just

2578
01:52:04,299 --> 01:52:02,239
floored it and he heard two thumps and

2579
01:52:06,459 --> 01:52:04,309
he knew right away at Cedar row was

2580
01:52:08,890 --> 01:52:06,469
driving what those thumps were when it

2581
01:52:10,989 --> 01:52:08,900
was the dull thump of the deer carcass

2582
01:52:12,629 --> 01:52:10,999
being pulled out onto the road and the

2583
01:52:15,790 --> 01:52:12,639
other was the clang of one of

2584
01:52:17,709 --> 01:52:15,800
ATV ramps and he kept going for a couple

2585
01:52:19,930 --> 01:52:17,719
of miles till he got to an intersection

2586
01:52:23,290 --> 01:52:19,940
and sat there and breathed heavily for a

2587
01:52:25,330 --> 01:52:23,300
while until finally he decided that he

2588
01:52:28,180 --> 01:52:25,340
really needed that you know he wasn't a

2589
01:52:30,250 --> 01:52:28,190
rich man and those ramps are not cheap

2590
01:52:33,490 --> 01:52:30,260
and he decided he was going to go back

2591
01:52:34,899 --> 01:52:33,500
and just see if he could get the ramp

2592
01:52:36,580 --> 01:52:34,909
back if the creature was still there he

2593
01:52:39,820 --> 01:52:36,590
would just keep you know keep going as

2594
01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:39,830
fast as he could so he drove back didn't

2595
01:52:45,490 --> 01:52:42,130
meet anybody coming or going either way

2596
01:52:48,820 --> 01:52:45,500
when he got back there the carcass was

2597
01:52:51,899 --> 01:52:48,830
gone and so was the ATV ramp neither one

2598
01:52:55,930 --> 01:52:51,909
were ever found they were just gone and

2599
01:52:59,560 --> 01:52:55,940
oh yeah and he won't be the motivation

2600
01:53:00,100 --> 01:52:59,570
for a wolf man to steal a aluminum ATV

2601
01:53:02,859 --> 01:53:00,110
ramp

2602
01:53:05,589 --> 01:53:02,869
well his theory was that when he threw

2603
01:53:07,419 --> 01:53:05,599
the deer in the truck bed the the ramp

2604
01:53:08,950 --> 01:53:07,429
kind of got tangled up in its legs and

2605
01:53:11,770 --> 01:53:08,960
when the creature the creature tugged

2606
01:53:14,260 --> 01:53:11,780
the deer out the ramp came with it but

2607
01:53:16,510 --> 01:53:14,270
then where did the ramp go you know

2608
01:53:18,399 --> 01:53:16,520
that's the weird thing unless it stayed

2609
01:53:20,709 --> 01:53:18,409
tangled up of that dragged into the

2610
01:53:26,669 --> 01:53:20,719
woods maybe the werewolves have a flea

2611
01:53:29,620 --> 01:53:26,679
market market with ramps and stuff from

2612
01:53:31,600 --> 01:53:29,630
regular people and they put him on sale

2613
01:53:33,729 --> 01:53:31,610
or maybe he just thought it would be

2614
01:53:35,620 --> 01:53:33,739
handy for taking the deer into his den

2615
01:53:37,870 --> 01:53:35,630
like hey yeah this is a good idea you

2616
01:53:40,540 --> 01:53:37,880
know I can use one of these puppies so

2617
01:53:42,430 --> 01:53:40,550
that they was that nobody probably would

2618
01:53:44,859 --> 01:53:42,440
have ever learned about it except that

2619
01:53:47,620 --> 01:53:44,869
being the conscientious good guy that he

2620
01:53:49,510 --> 01:53:47,630
is Steve decided he should go report it

2621
01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:49,520
to the Washington County Sheriff because

2622
01:53:54,939 --> 01:53:52,610
although he couldn't tell what it was he

2623
01:53:56,859 --> 01:53:54,949
felt it was probably dangerous and that

2624
01:53:58,899 --> 01:53:56,869
people should know what was there so as

2625
01:54:02,560 --> 01:53:58,909
soon as he wrote that it was standing on

2626
01:54:04,990 --> 01:54:02,570
its hind legs fur-covered deputy writing

2627
01:54:06,939 --> 01:54:05,000
it down wrote the word Yeti even though

2628
01:54:09,550 --> 01:54:06,949
Steve never said the word Yeti and it

2629
01:54:11,919 --> 01:54:09,560
got reported from the police log as a

2630
01:54:14,500 --> 01:54:11,929
Bigfoot which it never was and Steve

2631
01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:14,510
still is angry today that the newspaper

2632
01:54:19,290 --> 01:54:17,330
said Bigfoot sighting scene you know of

2633
01:54:23,109 --> 01:54:19,300
course it made the newspapers then but

2634
01:54:24,070 --> 01:54:23,119
yeah it did wouldn't sound right if you

2635
01:54:25,689 --> 01:54:24,080
said werewolf

2636
01:54:27,609 --> 01:54:25,699
well that's too

2637
01:54:29,049 --> 01:54:27,619
you know and then the fact is that they

2638
01:54:30,790 --> 01:54:29,059
just weren't lists I've had many

2639
01:54:33,580 --> 01:54:30,800
witnesses who have gone and reported to

2640
01:54:35,379 --> 01:54:33,590
authorities tell me the exact same thing

2641
01:54:38,890 --> 01:54:35,389
they try to describe something tall

2642
01:54:41,560 --> 01:54:38,900
upright and furry and they don't listen

2643
01:54:43,299 --> 01:54:41,570
to what you're reporting they just

2644
01:54:45,069 --> 01:54:43,309
immediately write down Bigfoot or yet

2645
01:54:46,930 --> 01:54:45,079
any or something like that well let me

2646
01:54:49,509 --> 01:54:46,940
ask you that question you raised a new

2647
01:54:51,879 --> 01:54:49,519
issue here and that is here do you think

2648
01:54:53,620 --> 01:54:51,889
that some of the creatures that have

2649
01:54:56,680 --> 01:54:53,630
been described as Yeti are really these

2650
01:54:58,569 --> 01:54:56,690
man wolves or whatever I think it's very

2651
01:55:01,089 --> 01:54:58,579
possible I just saw one the other day

2652
01:55:03,580 --> 01:55:01,099
that I'm pretty sure was because it's

2653
01:55:04,989 --> 01:55:03,590
not generally as well known everybody

2654
01:55:06,879 --> 01:55:04,999
knows about Bigfoot you know they're

2655
01:55:08,799 --> 01:55:06,889
their movies Harry and the Hendersons

2656
01:55:11,430 --> 01:55:08,809
but when you think about something that

2657
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looks like a werewolf that's generally

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mentally filed in the fantasy realm by

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most people they haven't heard that

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there are many people who have actually

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seen something that looks like this you

2662
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know in the wild outdoors or that's a

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wild outdoors so I do think that there

2664
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are cases probably where each one has

2665
01:55:32,949 --> 01:55:29,510
been misidentified the interesting thing

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though is that there are people who want

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to believe that all of the dog men or

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wolf men are actually what they call a

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snouted Bigfoot which makes no sense to

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me because any witness who has seen

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either one and I get Bigfoot reports as

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well so I do know the difference and

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when they get a good look they're easily

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able to distinguish as to whether they

2675
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saw a dog man or a Bigfoot the dog man

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you see the pointed ears on top of the

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head has the long snout the weight is

2678
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generally estimated between 150 and 250

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at most I've had maybe one person say

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300 or something but most of the time

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it's estimated 150 to 250 werewolves

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watch their diet ladies and gentlemen

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well you know they just have that

2684
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slender canine bill although they're

2685
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said to be more muscular in the upper

2686
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chest and the thigh area and the arms

2687
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which makes sense if they're using them

2688
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in two different ways to walk bipedally

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and also on all fours whereas Bigfoot is

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usually at least seven to eight feet

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tall sometimes nine feet tall weighs

2692
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many hundreds of pounds

2693
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varies all over the place is much

2694
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broader the arms and legs are thicker

2695
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the arms are very long and people will

2696
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say they see hands with big foot and

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flat feet as opposed to paws and

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something walking on its toe pads the

2699
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big foot can walk much more erect Lee

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than the the dog man you don't see ears

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you don't see a neck it's just got a

2702
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very primate shape it's a very different

2703
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thing and again it has knees bending

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forward like a human and the footprints

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are much more like a human's whereas the

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the dark man's footprints look like a

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giant super-sized timber wolf rather

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than maybe we're dealing here with some

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sort of missing link and we'll get into

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about the difficulty of maybe walking

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upright Linda Godfrey do you think here

2821
02:02:10,520 --> 02:02:07,650
maybe we have some kind of missing link

2822
02:02:12,070 --> 02:02:10,530
well only feature I think what are you

2823
02:02:15,050 --> 02:02:12,080
talking about the dog man you mean

2824
02:02:17,390 --> 02:02:15,060
missing link like something more related

2825
02:02:19,640 --> 02:02:17,400
to a Neanderthal no I don't think so

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02:02:22,820 --> 02:02:19,650
because you know the Neanderthals were

2827
02:02:25,729 --> 02:02:22,830
pretty darn human they were primates

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they were not canines and these things

2829
02:02:29,630 --> 02:02:27,510
are canine they walk on their taupe ads

2830
02:02:31,880 --> 02:02:29,640
they've got the canine skeletal

2831
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structure the skulls are completely

2832
02:02:37,520 --> 02:02:34,350
different they're not primates like us

2833
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they're different I think that I can

2834
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conjecture and this is this is not

2835
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science but my conjecture is that if it

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is some sort of naturally adapted animal

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that perhaps there were some individuals

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at some point that had mutations for

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slightly larger feet and paws that made

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it a little easier for them to walk

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02:03:03,890 --> 02:03:00,690
upright than most of their companions

2842
02:03:06,140 --> 02:03:03,900
and that they found it handy in some

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ways for their survival for instance if

2844
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they were living in the prairie States

2845
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they could stand up and see whether deer

2846
02:03:15,860 --> 02:03:13,680
were coming toward them or maybe a bear

2847
02:03:19,100 --> 02:03:15,870
or something else like that and that

2848
02:03:21,560 --> 02:03:19,110
once they got their prey if they stood

2849
02:03:24,709 --> 02:03:21,570
and ran on their hind legs it left their

2850
02:03:27,350 --> 02:03:24,719
forelimbs free for carrying the carcass

2851
02:03:29,979 --> 02:03:27,360
just as so many present-day eyewitnesses

2852
02:03:32,479 --> 02:03:29,989
have seen them doing I've read that

2853
02:03:34,729 --> 02:03:32,489
scientists think that with humans if you

2854
02:03:37,550 --> 02:03:34,739
believe in evolution they think that

2855
02:03:40,130 --> 02:03:37,560
free that when he when primates were

2856
02:03:42,920 --> 02:03:40,140
able to free their forelimbs it made for

2857
02:03:45,350 --> 02:03:42,930
all kinds of new brain connections many

2858
02:03:48,110 --> 02:03:45,360
no neurons were able to be developed and

2859
02:03:50,870 --> 02:03:48,120
that this might have helped the wolf met

2860
02:03:53,930 --> 02:03:50,880
intellectually - and perhaps is one

2861
02:03:57,140 --> 02:03:53,940
reason that they seem so intelligent and

2862
02:03:58,910 --> 02:03:57,150
that it helps them to be elusive and be

2863
02:04:02,060 --> 02:03:58,920
a little smarter than the average wolf

2864
02:04:05,120 --> 02:04:02,070
so I really think that it might be more

2865
02:04:06,740 --> 02:04:05,130
a case of natural selection and again I

2866
02:04:09,890 --> 02:04:06,750
don't have scientific proof for this I

2867
02:04:13,100 --> 02:04:09,900
don't claim that scientific it's just my

2868
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own speculation and common sense will

2869
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you bring up a good point and that is

2870
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scientific proof

2871
02:04:20,589 --> 02:04:17,849
what sort of physical evidence do we

2872
02:04:24,410 --> 02:04:20,599
have do we have any sort of hair samples

2873
02:04:27,800 --> 02:04:24,420
scat any really good photographic

2874
02:04:30,250 --> 02:04:27,810
evidence or film footage or it's pretty

2875
02:04:34,459 --> 02:04:30,260
rare but I have seen some pretty

2876
02:04:36,050 --> 02:04:34,469
impressive tracks but do we have any

2877
02:04:38,479 --> 02:04:36,060
sort of scientific evidence that's

2878
02:04:40,399 --> 02:04:38,489
that's been able to pass any sort of

2879
02:04:43,490 --> 02:04:40,409
muster well the tracks are the best

2880
02:04:45,050 --> 02:04:43,500
evidence in my view I have the feeling

2881
02:04:48,530 --> 02:04:45,060
because I think these things are totally

2882
02:04:51,439 --> 02:04:48,540
canine that if you got a hair sample if

2883
02:04:54,109 --> 02:04:51,449
you got scat or anything like that even

2884
02:04:58,069 --> 02:04:54,119
flesh or tissue that it would test out

2885
02:05:00,169 --> 02:04:58,079
as a wolf dog hybrid I really think that

2886
02:05:02,390 --> 02:05:00,179
partly because they've recently

2887
02:05:04,790 --> 02:05:02,400
discovered that when you see wolf packs

2888
02:05:07,399 --> 02:05:04,800
with dark where the wolf's have dark

2889
02:05:11,060 --> 02:05:07,409
brown fur like these guys have they're

2890
02:05:12,709 --> 02:05:11,070
almost always as dog DNA present so I do

2891
02:05:15,589 --> 02:05:12,719
think there's some type of wolf and dog

2892
02:05:17,959 --> 02:05:15,599
hybrid and then you know you really

2893
02:05:20,899 --> 02:05:17,969
can't prove anything by that whereas if

2894
02:05:22,939 --> 02:05:20,909
you DNA tested Bigfoot hair and you get

2895
02:05:24,680 --> 02:05:22,949
this primate you know we don't have

2896
02:05:26,510 --> 02:05:24,690
anything native like that in North

2897
02:05:28,280 --> 02:05:26,520
America so you've got something much

2898
02:05:31,100 --> 02:05:28,290
better to work with now with the

2899
02:05:33,500 --> 02:05:31,110
footprints the thing is that I recently

2900
02:05:35,780 --> 02:05:33,510
measured some and have a cast of some

2901
02:05:38,540 --> 02:05:35,790
that were found in Rock County Wisconsin

2902
02:05:41,030 --> 02:05:38,550
down here in southern Wisconsin that

2903
02:05:44,330 --> 02:05:41,040
were six to six and a half inches across

2904
02:05:46,640 --> 02:05:44,340
which is really bigger than any timber

2905
02:05:48,350 --> 02:05:46,650
wolf ought to be and there were only the

2906
02:05:51,020 --> 02:05:48,360
hind prints there weren't any four paw

2907
02:05:53,000 --> 02:05:51,030
prints and you could see it was going

2908
02:05:54,470 --> 02:05:53,010
across a muddy cornfield and it was

2909
02:05:56,060 --> 02:05:54,480
chasing a deer you could see the deer

2910
02:05:58,520 --> 02:05:56,070
prints and you could see its prints I

2911
02:06:00,979 --> 02:05:58,530
have another example that was taken in

2912
02:06:03,830 --> 02:06:00,989
south milwaukee of all places where

2913
02:06:05,750 --> 02:06:03,840
there happened to be a cornfield leading

2914
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up to a cliff near lake michigan and

2915
02:06:13,069 --> 02:06:09,739
this was just in a little dogleg Lane

2916
02:06:15,140 --> 02:06:13,079
forgive the pun off of this this little

2917
02:06:15,979 --> 02:06:15,150
gravel road that I happened to find this

2918
02:06:17,839 --> 02:06:15,989
mud puddle

2919
02:06:19,160 --> 02:06:17,849
where again you could see a deer was

2920
02:06:21,350 --> 02:06:19,170
springing out you could see where its

2921
02:06:24,140 --> 02:06:21,360
rear hoofs had pushed down for this for

2922
02:06:29,089 --> 02:06:24,150
the big spring and this canine creature

2923
02:06:30,799 --> 02:06:29,099
with six inch wide footprints right next

2924
02:06:32,270 --> 02:06:30,809
to it and they were a total of eight

2925
02:06:35,089 --> 02:06:32,280
inches long because there was another

2926
02:06:37,759 --> 02:06:35,099
impression that was sort of like a heel

2927
02:06:39,799 --> 02:06:37,769
impression and I think that that

2928
02:06:42,439 --> 02:06:39,809
probably is what would be their heel

2929
02:06:45,680 --> 02:06:42,449
joint hitting the ground when it was

2930
02:06:48,200 --> 02:06:45,690
free in turn after the deer and I did

2931
02:06:51,770 --> 02:06:48,210
have Wisconsin stop a wolf expert look

2932
02:06:53,299 --> 02:06:51,780
at them with the state DNR and he agreed

2933
02:06:55,520 --> 02:06:53,309
that they look like wolf prints he

2934
02:06:57,950 --> 02:06:55,530
didn't have any explanation for the

2935
02:07:00,470 --> 02:06:57,960
length of them other than that perhaps

2936
02:07:02,899 --> 02:07:00,480
he suggested that wolves often walk in

2937
02:07:04,160 --> 02:07:02,909
their own tracks but in that case there

2938
02:07:07,220 --> 02:07:04,170
should have been a second set of toe

2939
02:07:10,399 --> 02:07:07,230
prints and claw marks which were missing

2940
02:07:11,089 --> 02:07:10,409
that's a big dog six inches across my

2941
02:07:13,910 --> 02:07:11,099
goodness

2942
02:07:15,890 --> 02:07:13,920
yeah that's few just twice the size of a

2943
02:07:17,989 --> 02:07:15,900
well maybe not twice the size but but

2944
02:07:21,080 --> 02:07:17,999
what is twice it is twice the size of

2945
02:07:23,629 --> 02:07:21,090
like the largest dog species and a giant

2946
02:07:26,540 --> 02:07:23,639
big wolf will be four maybe five at the

2947
02:07:28,220 --> 02:07:26,550
most before us four is a good size for a

2948
02:07:30,500 --> 02:07:28,230
world four and a half something like

2949
02:07:32,810 --> 02:07:30,510
that one question it occurs to me here

2950
02:07:35,479 --> 02:07:32,820
we're still talking about werewolves man

2951
02:07:38,839 --> 02:07:35,489
wolves are all the creatures we see

2952
02:07:41,029 --> 02:07:38,849
these hairy upright canines of the male

2953
02:07:43,220 --> 02:07:41,039
species or what well you know it's

2954
02:07:47,089 --> 02:07:43,230
interesting I've had a few people report

2955
02:07:49,850 --> 02:07:47,099
that they saw male organs apparent on

2956
02:07:51,979 --> 02:07:49,860
the creature moat and I and I do ask the

2957
02:07:53,689 --> 02:07:51,989
question when it appears that the person

2958
02:07:56,029 --> 02:07:53,699
had a look at that part of it and

2959
02:07:57,770 --> 02:07:56,039
usually they'll just say you know it was

2960
02:07:59,839 --> 02:07:57,780
covered with such a dense shaggy fur all

2961
02:08:02,180 --> 02:07:59,849
over its body that you know I really

2962
02:08:04,910 --> 02:08:02,190
couldn't tell but in real wolf men true

2963
02:08:07,729 --> 02:08:04,920
Encounters I do cite the case of a man

2964
02:08:11,629 --> 02:08:07,739
who was in Kentucky in a state park and

2965
02:08:13,700 --> 02:08:11,639
saw what he felt was a female of the

2966
02:08:16,489 --> 02:08:13,710
species walking upright with a couple of

2967
02:08:19,790 --> 02:08:16,499
pups also walking upright following her

2968
02:08:21,319 --> 02:08:19,800
so he didn't see any female attributes

2969
02:08:23,390 --> 02:08:21,329
just assumed that this was the mother

2970
02:08:25,069 --> 02:08:23,400
you know with since they were the young

2971
02:08:29,840 --> 02:08:25,079
ones I've had other people in other

2972
02:08:31,580 --> 02:08:29,850
places report a very short dog like up

2973
02:08:34,910 --> 02:08:31,590
creatures - that could have also been

2974
02:08:37,460 --> 02:08:34,920
pups or maybe just a smaller species

2975
02:08:39,170 --> 02:08:37,470
variation for all we know are you

2976
02:08:40,840 --> 02:08:39,180
familiar with the case that Stan Gordon

2977
02:08:43,610 --> 02:08:40,850
mentioned in this mysterious

2978
02:08:45,950 --> 02:08:43,620
pennsylvania book about some sort of

2979
02:08:48,620 --> 02:08:45,960
Wolfman type creature that that if

2980
02:08:53,240 --> 02:08:48,630
memory serves me correct chase some kids

2981
02:08:56,210 --> 02:08:53,250
in a car and actually Claude left quite

2982
02:08:58,190 --> 02:08:56,220
impressive scratch marks on the trunk of

2983
02:09:01,550 --> 02:08:58,200
the car I'm trying to remember the

2984
02:09:03,980 --> 02:09:01,560
details of this but I'm sitting here

2985
02:09:05,750 --> 02:09:03,990
staring at my weird Pennsylvania book on

2986
02:09:08,000 --> 02:09:05,760
my bookshelf but I can't get to it with

2987
02:09:09,710 --> 02:09:08,010
my headphones on to look up but I could

2988
02:09:12,170 --> 02:09:09,720
tell you that I've had other reports

2989
02:09:14,900 --> 02:09:12,180
like that in Wisconsin yeah because I'm

2990
02:09:18,020 --> 02:09:14,910
looking for any sort of physical

2991
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evidence that could give us some sort of

2992
02:09:25,580 --> 02:09:21,300
leg up on this scientifically how you

2993
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mentioned write tracks you mentioned you

2994
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know very good quality eyewitness

2995
02:09:31,970 --> 02:09:28,470
sightings how about any cell phone

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footage or photographs or any sort of

2997
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video or film footage I personally have

2998
02:09:38,660 --> 02:09:37,110
never heard of any no people send me

2999
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things all the time and there are a few

3000
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that go around on the Internet and they

3001
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either turn out to be fakes or some sort

3002
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of blob Squatch type of thing you know

3003
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that they're just too blurry to prove

3004
02:09:53,810 --> 02:09:50,970
anything and the thing is you would need

3005
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to have probably several minutes in

3006
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really good light showing it with some

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kind of thing to measure against it in

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the background and turning in different

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directions so that you could see it from

3010
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various angles that's what you would

3011
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need in order to prove this and be sure

3012
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that it wasn't photoshopped and even

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then you know it's amazing what you can

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do with Photoshop these days I'll tell

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the worst drought in 50 years continues

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the hottest half year on record 78% of

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the Midwest Corn Belt is in drought

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fruits vegetables and wheat are all

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livestock is forcing farmers and

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ranchers out of business blowing up your

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hi this is meet Pope you're listening to

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the parrot the power cast takes a

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canine bent just a couple of weeks

3129
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before Halloween exploring real

3130
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werewolves not the ones that shape-shift

3131
02:15:02,239 --> 02:14:58,929
from humans and back not the ones that

3132
02:15:05,009 --> 02:15:02,249
Bay at the moon not the ones who become

3133
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werewolves when the full moon is bright

3134
02:15:10,560 --> 02:15:07,239
and we're trying to figure it out get a

3135
02:15:12,209 --> 02:15:10,570
handle on it Linda obviously if such

3136
02:15:14,129 --> 02:15:12,219
creatures exist we're going to want to

3137
02:15:17,399 --> 02:15:14,139
somehow prove it not just to convert

3138
02:15:18,989 --> 02:15:17,409
skeptics but get real evidence and we've

3139
02:15:21,569 --> 02:15:18,999
been saying these things for years we've

3140
02:15:23,849 --> 02:15:21,579
been seeing Bigfoot for years how would

3141
02:15:26,339 --> 02:15:23,859
scientists get together if they could

3142
02:15:28,919 --> 02:15:26,349
take it seriously which is possibly a

3143
02:15:30,509 --> 02:15:28,929
stretch and a half here how would we

3144
02:15:33,419 --> 02:15:30,519
find the evidence to prove these

3145
02:15:35,790 --> 02:15:33,429
creatures really really exist well like

3146
02:15:37,919 --> 02:15:35,800
I said it's frustrating because I think

3147
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if you find a dead one you are not

3148
02:15:41,849 --> 02:15:39,519
really going to have any evidence that

3149
02:15:45,629 --> 02:15:41,859
it's anything other than a large wolf

3150
02:15:48,270 --> 02:15:45,639
dog hybrid you know its behavior is what

3151
02:15:50,310 --> 02:15:48,280
sets it apart the fact that it walks on

3152
02:15:52,739 --> 02:15:50,320
its hind legs which is not an impossible

3153
02:15:54,569 --> 02:15:52,749
thing in the wild it usually only

3154
02:15:56,929 --> 02:15:54,579
happens if a four limb is missing and

3155
02:15:59,310 --> 02:15:56,939
I've never had anybody report that and

3156
02:16:00,869 --> 02:15:59,320
domesticated dogs will do it if they're

3157
02:16:06,599 --> 02:16:00,879
trained and motivated you know like the

3158
02:16:08,879 --> 02:16:06,609
little dancing dogs at the circus I've

3159
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never seen anybody merengue but my

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favorite youtube if you google merengue

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dancing dog you can get a really great

3162
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video of a dog you know running around

3163
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upright and doing all kinds of tricks so

3164
02:16:23,729 --> 02:16:20,889
it's the behavior that gets people not

3165
02:16:27,719 --> 02:16:23,739
really any inherent and part of it any

3166
02:16:29,549 --> 02:16:27,729
inherent part of its makeup so hair

3167
02:16:33,660 --> 02:16:29,559
samples scat all that kind of thing

3168
02:16:36,240 --> 02:16:33,670
aren't really going to do it I think

3169
02:16:38,519 --> 02:16:36,250
that the footprints the if we can really

3170
02:16:41,790 --> 02:16:38,529
and I've got good footprints and casts

3171
02:16:43,339 --> 02:16:41,800
and I I guess those just aren't

3172
02:16:46,139 --> 02:16:43,349
considered good enough evidence although

3173
02:16:48,179 --> 02:16:46,149
they could be used to convict people if

3174
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if you know you're a scene at a crime

3175
02:16:52,589 --> 02:16:50,469
scene and the footprint matches your

3176
02:16:54,509 --> 02:16:52,599
footprint you know it can be used as

3177
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evidence in court I

3178
02:16:58,979 --> 02:16:56,829
we'll say that I I do believe the

3179
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anecdotal evidence is very strong in the

3180
02:17:03,540 --> 02:17:00,939
very first episode of Monster quest

3181
02:17:05,099 --> 02:17:03,550
they asked me to round up you know just

3182
02:17:08,279 --> 02:17:05,109
seven or eight general witnesses that I

3183
02:17:10,709 --> 02:17:08,289
they were mainly going by geographical

3184
02:17:12,569 --> 02:17:10,719
ease that that lived nearby where we

3185
02:17:14,969 --> 02:17:12,579
were filming and could be gotten to the

3186
02:17:17,490 --> 02:17:14,979
place pretty easily and we actually

3187
02:17:20,339 --> 02:17:17,500
filmed more than we had space to use on

3188
02:17:22,859 --> 02:17:20,349
the TV show and polygraph tests were

3189
02:17:25,589 --> 02:17:22,869
administered by a top-notch professional

3190
02:17:28,019 --> 02:17:25,599
they brought in from Minneapolis who

3191
02:17:29,549 --> 02:17:28,029
subbed out to the Minneapolis Police

3192
02:17:31,889 --> 02:17:29,559
Department's when they needed a real

3193
02:17:33,959 --> 02:17:31,899
specialist and he was tough I'll tell

3194
02:17:35,669 --> 02:17:33,969
you the producers figured it would be

3195
02:17:37,469 --> 02:17:35,679
about fifty-fifty you know maybe half

3196
02:17:40,469 --> 02:17:37,479
would pass and half would fail they all

3197
02:17:42,479 --> 02:17:40,479
passed with no evidence of deception and

3198
02:17:45,450 --> 02:17:42,489
flying colors every single one of them

3199
02:17:47,669 --> 02:17:45,460
and moreover when they had asked me to

3200
02:17:48,899 --> 02:17:47,679
ask whether they would take the test I

3201
02:17:50,279 --> 02:17:48,909
was a little embarrassed I thought oh

3202
02:17:53,129 --> 02:17:50,289
they're gonna think that I don't believe

3203
02:17:55,349 --> 02:17:53,139
them they'll be offended none of them

3204
02:17:57,509 --> 02:17:55,359
were they all said yeah I know exactly

3205
02:18:00,029 --> 02:17:57,519
what I saw I'll take any test you have

3206
02:18:02,819 --> 02:18:00,039
and that's something that I hear time

3207
02:18:05,339 --> 02:18:02,829
and time again from people who send

3208
02:18:07,109 --> 02:18:05,349
their reports in to me it's like I know

3209
02:18:09,660 --> 02:18:07,119
what I saw I don't care what anyone else

3210
02:18:11,809 --> 02:18:09,670
does this is what it was and the fact

3211
02:18:14,849 --> 02:18:11,819
that the sightings are so consistent of

3212
02:18:16,529 --> 02:18:14,859
allowing for a smaller percentage as I

3213
02:18:18,719 --> 02:18:16,539
said of these ones I call bedroom

3214
02:18:21,779 --> 02:18:18,729
invaders that appear to be really

3215
02:18:24,750 --> 02:18:21,789
another phenomenon entirely most of the

3216
02:18:28,439 --> 02:18:24,760
sightings just describe something that

3217
02:18:30,779 --> 02:18:28,449
is unique in its behavior that sound

3218
02:18:33,660 --> 02:18:30,789
very unique what about around the world

3219
02:18:35,639 --> 02:18:33,670
we have reports of werewolves do they

3220
02:18:38,910 --> 02:18:35,649
all look the same

3221
02:18:40,979 --> 02:18:38,920
well say in Europe you know where they

3222
02:18:44,299 --> 02:18:40,989
also have wolves

3223
02:18:46,529 --> 02:18:44,309
people will see upright wolves I've had

3224
02:18:48,509 --> 02:18:46,539
people write to me and say my uncle

3225
02:18:50,639 --> 02:18:48,519
described seeing something like this in

3226
02:18:53,040 --> 02:18:50,649
the South of France during World War two

3227
02:18:56,519 --> 02:18:53,050
when he was stationed there I've had a

3228
02:18:59,429 --> 02:18:56,529
woman tell me her grandfather growing up

3229
02:19:01,589 --> 02:18:59,439
on Sicily the island of Sicily often saw

3230
02:19:04,229 --> 02:19:01,599
a creature like this and described it to

3231
02:19:06,209 --> 02:19:04,239
them so I get reports from all over the

3232
02:19:08,309 --> 02:19:06,219
world the interesting thing is that when

3233
02:19:10,349 --> 02:19:08,319
you get around to places like

3234
02:19:13,739 --> 02:19:10,359
certain African countries where there

3235
02:19:17,129 --> 02:19:13,749
are no werewolves you'll get our Wolf's

3236
02:19:19,500 --> 02:19:17,139
I guess to turn into a legend you will

3237
02:19:22,709 --> 02:19:19,510
have stories where people see where

3238
02:19:25,859 --> 02:19:22,719
leopards where hyenas or whatever or the

3239
02:19:27,959 --> 02:19:25,869
top predator is seems to be something

3240
02:19:30,029 --> 02:19:27,969
that will be believed to walk on its

3241
02:19:32,129 --> 02:19:30,039
hind feet and have some sort of

3242
02:19:34,290 --> 02:19:32,139
transformational legend that goes love's

3243
02:19:36,869 --> 02:19:34,300
awesome flying a cultural conditioning

3244
02:19:39,509 --> 02:19:36,879
again right we expect wolves we see

3245
02:19:42,979 --> 02:19:39,519
wolves if we expect hyenas it'll be

3246
02:19:46,500 --> 02:19:42,989
where hyena or you could say well

3247
02:19:48,419 --> 02:19:46,510
wherever whatever predator is natural to

3248
02:19:51,149 --> 02:19:48,429
the area that's what's in there and

3249
02:19:54,059 --> 02:19:51,159
learns to walk upright I don't know

3250
02:19:55,949 --> 02:19:54,069
whether you can and of course there we

3251
02:19:57,599 --> 02:19:55,959
have the legends you know you have to

3252
02:20:00,300 --> 02:19:57,609
sort out the legends from the

3253
02:20:01,710 --> 02:20:00,310
contemporary reports and I don't know

3254
02:20:03,779 --> 02:20:01,720
that you have a lot of contemporary

3255
02:20:06,359 --> 02:20:03,789
reports of things like where hyenas and

3256
02:20:09,649 --> 02:20:06,369
where Jaguars and in Africa I just don't

3257
02:20:12,029 --> 02:20:09,659
know enough about it to just say that

3258
02:20:14,760 --> 02:20:12,039
you know but I I would tend to suspect

3259
02:20:17,210 --> 02:20:14,770
that most of them are more of the the

3260
02:20:19,949 --> 02:20:17,220
legend sort of thing or the shamanistic

3261
02:20:22,619 --> 02:20:19,959
type of transformational thing that we

3262
02:20:25,469 --> 02:20:22,629
talked about earlier or the shapeshifter

3263
02:20:30,000 --> 02:20:25,479
and that can occur of course with any

3264
02:20:34,889 --> 02:20:30,010
sort of animal hmm there you go yeah

3265
02:20:36,420 --> 02:20:34,899
this fascinating stuff I always it it's

3266
02:20:40,590 --> 02:20:36,430
always been one of those head scratchers

3267
02:20:44,819 --> 02:20:40,600
the upright the upright animal where are

3268
02:20:45,840 --> 02:20:44,829
the hottest spots you mentioned southern

3269
02:20:47,939 --> 02:20:45,850
Wisconsin

3270
02:20:49,739 --> 02:20:47,949
are there other areas around the country

3271
02:20:52,439 --> 02:20:49,749
where these types of sightings tend to

3272
02:20:55,199 --> 02:20:52,449
be clustered I I realize that most of

3273
02:20:57,599 --> 02:20:55,209
these are just out of the blue just you

3274
02:20:59,340 --> 02:20:57,609
know no rhyme or reason just uh people

3275
02:21:00,899 --> 02:20:59,350
happen to be in the right place at the

3276
02:21:03,750 --> 02:21:00,909
right time a wrong time depending on

3277
02:21:05,939 --> 02:21:03,760
your point of view but we have any any

3278
02:21:08,010 --> 02:21:05,949
places like a Bray Road where they've

3279
02:21:09,329 --> 02:21:08,020
just have been seen for years and years

3280
02:21:11,909 --> 02:21:09,339
and years and they tend to be clustered

3281
02:21:13,409 --> 02:21:11,919
and I'm trying to I'm trying to nail

3282
02:21:15,269 --> 02:21:13,419
down where we might have breeding

3283
02:21:17,760 --> 02:21:15,279
populations of these things in other

3284
02:21:19,920 --> 02:21:17,770
words right well I've got a map in my

3285
02:21:22,710 --> 02:21:19,930
real Wolfman true encounters in modern

3286
02:21:25,229 --> 02:21:22,720
America where you can go and look

3287
02:21:27,599 --> 02:21:25,239
see where the main sightings clusters

3288
02:21:29,400 --> 02:21:27,609
are not every individual one but but the

3289
02:21:31,860 --> 02:21:29,410
main ones and some of them are kind of

3290
02:21:34,440 --> 02:21:31,870
surprising for instance I've been

3291
02:21:36,630 --> 02:21:34,450
starting to get multiple reports from

3292
02:21:39,389 --> 02:21:36,640
the canyons around Los Angeles which is

3293
02:21:42,870 --> 02:21:39,399
a new thing and some of them seem to

3294
02:21:44,700 --> 02:21:42,880
have sort of dog cat characteristics

3295
02:21:46,380 --> 02:21:44,710
they'll describe them as having ears

3296
02:21:48,860 --> 02:21:46,390
that reminded them of Lynx's for

3297
02:21:51,929 --> 02:21:48,870
instance but otherwise they seem canine

3298
02:21:53,760 --> 02:21:51,939
I've had there are clusters going on in

3299
02:21:57,210 --> 02:21:53,770
Oklahoma different parts of Oklahoma

3300
02:21:59,250 --> 02:21:57,220
seem to be hotspots Northeastern Ohio is

3301
02:22:01,920 --> 02:21:59,260
another area both for Bigfoot and for

3302
02:22:05,729 --> 02:22:01,930
dog man and then in Michigan of course

3303
02:22:09,269 --> 02:22:05,739
you've got the million or so acres of

3304
02:22:11,510 --> 02:22:09,279
the Manistee National Forest where again

3305
02:22:14,309 --> 02:22:11,520
you have both Bigfoot and dog man and

3306
02:22:17,219 --> 02:22:14,319
Michigan has another interesting hotspot

3307
02:22:19,769 --> 02:22:17,229
area which is around Kalamazoo in the

3308
02:22:21,900 --> 02:22:19,779
southern part much more populated and

3309
02:22:25,080 --> 02:22:21,910
here's the kicker

3310
02:22:28,769 --> 02:22:25,090
what happened to be around Kalamazoo in

3311
02:22:30,870 --> 02:22:28,779
ancient times was another form of effigy

3312
02:22:33,690 --> 02:22:30,880
mounds that the settlers called garden

3313
02:22:37,500 --> 02:22:33,700
beds when they arrived because they were

3314
02:22:41,519 --> 02:22:37,510
raised perfectly groomed geometric

3315
02:22:43,469 --> 02:22:41,529
formations that said in very complex

3316
02:22:45,210 --> 02:22:43,479
patterns and they reminded them of the

3317
02:22:47,519 --> 02:22:45,220
formal gardens that were sent around

3318
02:22:49,469 --> 02:22:47,529
palaces in Europe that's why they call

3319
02:22:50,849 --> 02:22:49,479
them garden beds and of course then they

3320
02:22:52,800 --> 02:22:50,859
went and plowed over them but luckily

3321
02:22:55,500 --> 02:22:52,810
somebody surveyed them first and so we

3322
02:22:57,809 --> 02:22:55,510
kind of know where they were but that

3323
02:23:00,690 --> 02:22:57,819
happens to be the other being hot spot

3324
02:23:05,510 --> 02:23:00,700
sighting area in Michigan again near

3325
02:23:07,590 --> 02:23:05,520
ancient Native American mounds and the

3326
02:23:09,660 --> 02:23:07,600
Native Americans who were still there

3327
02:23:11,760 --> 02:23:09,670
when the settlers came said that the

3328
02:23:15,290 --> 02:23:11,770
mounds were made by long ago people

3329
02:23:19,769 --> 02:23:15,300
called the kodesh or prairie people and

3330
02:23:22,469 --> 02:23:19,779
interestingly the they set guardians

3331
02:23:25,139 --> 02:23:22,479
around these mounds to guard them in

3332
02:23:26,550 --> 02:23:25,149
perpetuity and that's one other big

3333
02:23:28,500 --> 02:23:26,560
theory that we haven't really touched

3334
02:23:31,290 --> 02:23:28,510
upon yet that I've also heard from other

3335
02:23:34,679 --> 02:23:31,300
Native Americans is that some of them

3336
02:23:36,070 --> 02:23:34,689
feel these creatures could be some kind

3337
02:23:39,130 --> 02:23:36,080
of manifest

3338
02:23:41,830 --> 02:23:39,140
station of guardian spirit guardian

3339
02:23:44,380 --> 02:23:41,840
creatures that come to life under

3340
02:23:47,470 --> 02:23:44,390
certain conditions or are summoned by

3341
02:23:49,480 --> 02:23:47,480
some people maybe when the area is

3342
02:23:54,130 --> 02:23:49,490
disturbed there's they're released and

3343
02:23:57,040 --> 02:23:54,140
let loose and that again that puts them

3344
02:24:01,110 --> 02:23:57,050
in the spirit creature category but I

3345
02:24:04,180 --> 02:24:01,120
think that that is just a fascinating

3346
02:24:05,890 --> 02:24:04,190
number of coincidences if you will that

3347
02:24:07,570 --> 02:24:05,900
that all it all kind of comes together

3348
02:24:10,390 --> 02:24:07,580
down there with the ancient things and

3349
02:24:12,670 --> 02:24:10,400
the spirit guardians and so so like like

3350
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guard dogs the guard left find out more

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about the guard dogs the werewolves the

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02:28:32,540 --> 02:28:30,510
water filters calm or call eight seven

3449
02:28:36,440 --> 02:28:32,550
seven ninety nine Berkey that's eight

3450
02:28:45,390 --> 02:28:36,450
seven seven ninety nine BER k2i or go to

3451
02:28:50,310 --> 02:28:48,001
this is the wrong plaque author of the

3452
02:28:56,190 --> 02:28:50,320
UFO encyclopedia other books you're

3453
02:28:58,501 --> 02:28:56,200
listening to the parrot cap this has

3454
02:29:00,751 --> 02:28:58,511
been an awful lot of fun we're almost

3455
02:29:03,421 --> 02:29:00,761
done with the session the final segment

3456
02:29:06,001 --> 02:29:03,431
just like that with Tina and Chris on

3457
02:29:08,430 --> 02:29:06,011
the power cast Linda Godfrey exploring

3458
02:29:11,220 --> 02:29:08,440
not the fake stuff not the stuff from

3459
02:29:13,680 --> 02:29:11,230
True Blood or the Wolfman but real wolf

3460
02:29:15,690 --> 02:29:13,690
men true encounters in modern America

3461
02:29:19,410 --> 02:29:15,700
which is the name of the book we're

3462
02:29:21,961 --> 02:29:19,420
exploring all the crazy canine creatures

3463
02:29:25,011 --> 02:29:21,971
that have been sighted whether they are

3464
02:29:27,841 --> 02:29:25,021
real whether they are projections

3465
02:29:29,850 --> 02:29:27,851
whether we can ever find evidence that's

3466
02:29:31,770 --> 02:29:29,860
always been the problem Linda with all

3467
02:29:34,051 --> 02:29:31,780
these mysteries the kind of hit-and-run

3468
02:29:36,541 --> 02:29:34,061
cat-and-mouse game kind of thing where

3469
02:29:37,980 --> 02:29:36,551
you see these creatures occasionally get

3470
02:29:41,131 --> 02:29:37,990
some footprints that may or may not

3471
02:29:43,081 --> 02:29:41,141
represent something unusual but you can

3472
02:29:45,450 --> 02:29:43,091
never get at the core of the mystery

3473
02:29:48,631 --> 02:29:45,460
it's like it keeps running away from us

3474
02:29:51,541 --> 02:29:48,641
it's very frustrating you know I would

3475
02:29:54,841 --> 02:29:51,551
love to have it resolved and be able to

3476
02:29:56,910 --> 02:29:54,851
figure it out and I keep thinking every

3477
02:29:58,261 --> 02:29:56,920
time I write a book I think well this is

3478
02:30:01,381 --> 02:29:58,271
the end I'll never think of anything

3479
02:30:03,600 --> 02:30:01,391
else about it nobody else will ever come

3480
02:30:06,390 --> 02:30:03,610
forward with any more stories and then a

3481
02:30:08,131 --> 02:30:06,400
flood of reports arrives and new

3482
02:30:10,051 --> 02:30:08,141
theories come up and there's always

3483
02:30:13,801 --> 02:30:10,061
something more to think about and I do

3484
02:30:16,291 --> 02:30:13,811
think even if my least popular choice

3485
02:30:19,740 --> 02:30:16,301
would be that it turned out somehow the

3486
02:30:21,900 --> 02:30:19,750
entire country was having shared mass

3487
02:30:23,400 --> 02:30:21,910
hallucinations of seeing this thing when

3488
02:30:25,381 --> 02:30:23,410
and I think that's a farther stretch

3489
02:30:28,110 --> 02:30:25,391
than almost any of the other

3490
02:30:30,541 --> 02:30:28,120
possibilities at least we would know you

3491
02:30:32,461 --> 02:30:30,551
know and and I would rather know and

3492
02:30:35,190 --> 02:30:32,471
find out than have it be a mystery

3493
02:30:39,001 --> 02:30:35,200
forever but I'd rather it be a mystery

3494
02:30:40,440 --> 02:30:39,011
then just decide arbitrarily okay it's

3495
02:30:43,470 --> 02:30:40,450
this or that and it does frustrate

3496
02:30:45,990 --> 02:30:43,480
people that I can't say for sure it's a

3497
02:30:49,020 --> 02:30:46,000
natural animal or for sure it's a native

3498
02:30:51,720 --> 02:30:49,030
spirit creature because I think it would

3499
02:30:53,490 --> 02:30:51,730
be dishonest of me to say yes this is

3500
02:30:56,780 --> 02:30:53,500
this is what it is just because that's

3501
02:30:59,010 --> 02:30:56,790
what I think what I really don't know

3502
02:31:01,050 --> 02:30:59,020
well it's better than the present

3503
02:31:03,059 --> 02:31:01,060
some kind of dog mannered conclusion I

3504
02:31:06,349 --> 02:31:03,069
was not seeing looking at the big blog

3505
02:31:09,630 --> 02:31:06,359
Rafi and looking at your back titles

3506
02:31:13,229 --> 02:31:09,640
that you actually did one book with our

3507
02:31:15,420 --> 02:31:13,239
old friend Nick Redfern he well he wrote

3508
02:31:18,059 --> 02:31:15,430
he wrote a foreword to one of my books

3509
02:31:20,189 --> 02:31:18,069
okay which may be what you're thinking

3510
02:31:22,500 --> 02:31:20,199
of oh that's it possibly I think they

3511
02:31:24,059 --> 02:31:22,510
list him as a co-author yeah sometimes

3512
02:31:25,800 --> 02:31:24,069
they get those if you're looking at the

3513
02:31:27,809 --> 02:31:25,810
Amazon sheep they get those mixed up he

3514
02:31:31,260 --> 02:31:27,819
wrote a really nice forward to one of my

3515
02:31:33,029 --> 02:31:31,270
books but I did not have the pleasure of

3516
02:31:34,800 --> 02:31:33,039
co-authoring but Nick's a good friend of

3517
02:31:38,010 --> 02:31:34,810
mine too you know we often share

3518
02:31:39,840 --> 02:31:38,020
information so and a friend of the show

3519
02:31:42,240 --> 02:31:39,850
and he's a guest co-host so when Chris

3520
02:31:46,819 --> 02:31:42,250
can make or when Nick has a book out

3521
02:31:49,910 --> 02:31:46,829
which he has one now right now we

3522
02:31:53,639 --> 02:31:49,920
basically we could have Nick as a guest

3523
02:31:55,170 --> 02:31:53,649
about twice a month continually I don't

3524
02:31:57,630 --> 02:31:55,180
think he sleeps I really don't think

3525
02:31:59,099 --> 02:31:57,640
that man sleeps and it's a day job by

3526
02:32:02,160 --> 02:31:59,109
the way as a writer right now so he's

3527
02:32:03,389 --> 02:32:02,170
writing a day job because as a lot of

3528
02:32:08,069 --> 02:32:03,399
people have learned you don't become

3529
02:32:09,389 --> 02:32:08,079
rich and famous not by Alex day job

3530
02:32:11,790 --> 02:32:09,399
right now

3531
02:32:13,950 --> 02:32:11,800
well no I'm writing full-time but I also

3532
02:32:16,620 --> 02:32:13,960
have a husband who works very hard and

3533
02:32:19,700 --> 02:32:16,630
and provides our main support and who

3534
02:32:22,500 --> 02:32:19,710
rused the day when I quit teaching art

3535
02:32:23,910 --> 02:32:22,510
to start writing for newspapers and

3536
02:32:25,950 --> 02:32:23,920
writing books and sorts of things

3537
02:32:28,500 --> 02:32:25,960
because I'd be sitting with a nice fat

3538
02:32:30,630 --> 02:32:28,510
pension and you know what we'd be much

3539
02:32:32,429 --> 02:32:30,640
better financially what is your husband

3540
02:32:35,849 --> 02:32:32,439
doing do you want to mention that he is

3541
02:32:39,389 --> 02:32:35,859
a civil engineer so he's more of a

3542
02:32:42,229 --> 02:32:39,399
science type mind and and he's very very

3543
02:32:45,479 --> 02:32:42,239
good at what he does and and is very

3544
02:32:46,920 --> 02:32:45,489
nice about letting me do what I do why

3545
02:32:50,189 --> 02:32:46,930
does he think of his walkie so yeah that

3546
02:32:52,889 --> 02:32:50,199
was my question what is your fascination

3547
02:32:54,990 --> 02:32:52,899
with this particular subject well the

3548
02:32:57,689 --> 02:32:55,000
thing is he's been close enough to me to

3549
02:32:59,910 --> 02:32:57,699
see all the times when you know they're

3550
02:33:03,090 --> 02:32:59,920
just our true mysteries and he's also a

3551
02:33:05,460 --> 02:33:03,100
great avid outdoorsman if he can be

3552
02:33:07,859 --> 02:33:05,470
fishing hunting or outdoors in any way

3553
02:33:09,840 --> 02:33:07,869
that's what he's doing and and he has

3554
02:33:12,029 --> 02:33:09,850
seen the tracks and he has seen you know

3555
02:33:12,900 --> 02:33:12,039
the incidents I've had encounters with

3556
02:33:15,870 --> 02:33:12,910
Bigfoot and that's

3557
02:33:19,591 --> 02:33:15,880
- and it's enough to give him pause you

3558
02:33:22,770 --> 02:33:19,601
know and he admits that there are things

3559
02:33:24,631 --> 02:33:22,780
that he himself can't figure out so he's

3560
02:33:28,051 --> 02:33:24,641
going to have some respect for it over

3561
02:33:30,270 --> 02:33:28,061
the years do you have any young uns I do

3562
02:33:32,640 --> 02:33:30,280
I have two sons neither of whom could

3563
02:33:35,790 --> 02:33:32,650
care less about cryptozoological

3564
02:33:38,250 --> 02:33:35,800
creatures because it's what mom does it

3565
02:33:40,261 --> 02:33:38,260
moms that crazy person who chases after

3566
02:33:46,620 --> 02:33:40,271
werewolves and stuff if your mom does it

3567
02:33:48,660 --> 02:33:46,630
you can't have any interest exactly it

3568
02:33:50,670 --> 02:33:48,670
is it really it really is true that way

3569
02:33:53,430 --> 02:33:50,680
and I would like to mention real quickly

3570
02:33:55,530 --> 02:33:53,440
if anybody wants more in-depth

3571
02:33:58,080 --> 02:33:55,540
information on me or a book list or

3572
02:34:01,200 --> 02:33:58,090
links to buy the books you can just go

3573
02:34:03,360 --> 02:34:01,210
to Linda Godfrey calm and I am

3574
02:34:05,460 --> 02:34:03,370
rebuilding my beast of Bray Road page

3575
02:34:08,700 --> 02:34:05,470
it's just slowly coming along but

3576
02:34:10,470 --> 02:34:08,710
there's already one of those pages up on

3577
02:34:13,350 --> 02:34:10,480
that it's a wordpress blog with several

3578
02:34:15,320 --> 02:34:13,360
pages and you can find out all kinds of

3579
02:34:17,551 --> 02:34:15,330
other things that just Linda Godfrey com

3580
02:34:19,860 --> 02:34:17,561
well if they don't take over your server

3581
02:34:22,140 --> 02:34:19,870
like someone's try to do with us awhile

3582
02:34:25,110 --> 02:34:22,150
back you'll do fine by the way if you

3583
02:34:28,530 --> 02:34:25,120
need any help with WordPress we're here

3584
02:34:30,150 --> 02:34:28,540
to help well I just may hear from me

3585
02:34:31,860 --> 02:34:30,160
because yes I don't know you you know

3586
02:34:34,290 --> 02:34:31,870
where to find me I'm serious you know

3587
02:34:37,890 --> 02:34:34,300
I'm happy to help get things working

3588
02:34:39,450 --> 02:34:37,900
better with WordPress because where do

3589
02:34:41,520 --> 02:34:39,460
you go from here now you've covered a

3590
02:34:44,011 --> 02:34:41,530
lot of books about hairy creatures

3591
02:34:45,900 --> 02:34:44,021
particularly werewolves and you've

3592
02:34:47,400 --> 02:34:45,910
really made great strides have been

3593
02:34:49,170 --> 02:34:47,410
working at this thing for a number of

3594
02:34:51,030 --> 02:34:49,180
years and you haven't driven your

3595
02:34:52,920 --> 02:34:51,040
husband crazy yet which is really good

3596
02:34:56,551 --> 02:34:52,930
you don't have to be a real saint that

3597
02:34:59,460 --> 02:34:56,561
you can live a normal life all this

3598
02:35:00,810 --> 02:34:59,470
wacky stuff that you cover so where do

3599
02:35:02,551 --> 02:35:00,820
you go next you get a stick with the

3600
02:35:06,261 --> 02:35:02,561
werewolf stuff where you're gonna go go

3601
02:35:09,560 --> 02:35:06,271
into other supernatural paranormal

3602
02:35:11,970 --> 02:35:09,570
aspects of our universe well I I just

3603
02:35:14,070 --> 02:35:11,980
contracted with penguin for another book

3604
02:35:16,320 --> 02:35:14,080
and it's a little all I can say right

3605
02:35:18,511 --> 02:35:16,330
now is it's a little broader ranging you

3606
02:35:20,341 --> 02:35:18,521
know it's a width of and it digs into

3607
02:35:22,140 --> 02:35:20,351
some things that I'm very interested in

3608
02:35:24,690 --> 02:35:22,150
so I'm excited to get started with it

3609
02:35:26,551 --> 02:35:24,700
and I also I'm branching out else if you

3610
02:35:29,881 --> 02:35:26,561
watch my website Linda Godfrey down

3611
02:35:33,781 --> 02:35:29,891
come in a month or two probably two I'm

3612
02:35:38,400 --> 02:35:33,791
going to be releasing a fantasy urban

3613
02:35:41,911 --> 02:35:38,410
fantasy novel that I'm Co independent

3614
02:35:45,621 --> 02:35:41,921
publishing with my agency in New York as

3615
02:35:49,650 --> 02:35:45,631
an e-book so so this of course will be

3616
02:35:52,051 --> 02:35:49,660
sold to Hollywood and Alan when he gives

3617
02:35:54,541 --> 02:35:52,061
up doing True Blood he'll come to you

3618
02:35:56,671 --> 02:35:54,551
well you know that of course is

3619
02:35:58,650 --> 02:35:56,681
everybody's dream but you just I just

3620
02:36:00,570 --> 02:35:58,660
hope to get out a book that people and

3621
02:36:02,791 --> 02:36:00,580
will enjoy reading and if it translates

3622
02:36:05,430 --> 02:36:02,801
to other media that's great if not I'm

3623
02:36:09,360 --> 02:36:05,440
just you know excited about having the

3624
02:36:12,541 --> 02:36:09,370
the fantasy out there very politically

3625
02:36:15,031 --> 02:36:12,551
correct to say that well it's true it

3626
02:36:17,251 --> 02:36:15,041
really is very briefly because we cover

3627
02:36:21,121 --> 02:36:17,261
it so often your travels ever take you

3628
02:36:23,070 --> 02:36:21,131
into the realm of UFOs oh yes yeah I've

3629
02:36:25,711 --> 02:36:23,080
had people report those you know I have

3630
02:36:28,261 --> 02:36:25,721
the sight weird Michigan Michigan's just

3631
02:36:31,801 --> 02:36:28,271
infested with UFOs and I often get

3632
02:36:34,890 --> 02:36:31,811
reports from people who see that sight

3633
02:36:37,140 --> 02:36:34,900
and I don't Depp that sight and my old

3634
02:36:41,211 --> 02:36:37,150
beast sight are both crump literally

3635
02:36:44,220 --> 02:36:41,221
crumbling in cyberspace because my

3636
02:36:45,720 --> 02:36:44,230
equipment is so antiquated but you can

3637
02:36:48,001 --> 02:36:45,730
still go and look at them especially

3638
02:36:48,600 --> 02:36:48,011
weird Michigan his work is still working

3639
02:36:50,850 --> 02:36:48,610
pretty well

3640
02:36:53,881 --> 02:36:50,860
and you can see UFO things that have

3641
02:36:57,091 --> 02:36:53,891
been reported and remember folks we say

3642
02:36:59,371 --> 02:36:57,101
if your PC equipment is crumbling get a

3643
02:37:01,171 --> 02:36:59,381
Mac these are Macs

3644
02:37:03,781 --> 02:37:01,181
oh they are max they're crumpled max

3645
02:37:07,230 --> 02:37:03,791
yeah what I run those on is an old PC

3646
02:37:09,751 --> 02:37:07,240
three Power Mac great orb a beige Power

3647
02:37:11,480 --> 02:37:09,761
Mac Oh a beige Power Mac understand they

3648
02:37:15,541 --> 02:37:11,490
haven't made beige power Mac since the

3649
02:37:18,421 --> 02:37:15,551
1990s I think it's more like the 1890s

3650
02:37:22,291 --> 02:37:18,431
is that how it is

3651
02:37:23,881 --> 02:37:22,301
and so of course the software is just

3652
02:37:25,350 --> 02:37:23,891
antiquated and I can't get anything else

3653
02:37:27,751 --> 02:37:25,360
that would work on it you know and

3654
02:37:31,261 --> 02:37:27,761
everything else I'm doing on my much

3655
02:37:33,570 --> 02:37:31,271
more updated PC laptop so that's why I'm

3656
02:37:37,501 --> 02:37:33,580
going to WordPress ok WordPress is a

3657
02:37:39,841 --> 02:37:37,511
great platform for as a rack our power

3658
02:37:40,230 --> 02:37:39,851
cache site is hosted by WordPress even

3659
02:37:42,150 --> 02:37:40,240
though it's

3660
02:37:43,890 --> 02:37:42,160
Blagh so you can do just about

3661
02:37:46,470 --> 02:37:43,900
everything with WordPress I'll talk to

3662
02:37:49,950 --> 02:37:46,480
you about that in any case your site is

3663
02:37:51,690 --> 02:37:49,960
Linda Godfrey comm and we'll link to it

3664
02:37:53,220 --> 02:37:51,700
at the power cast icon so you don't have

3665
02:37:56,190 --> 02:37:53,230
to remember that we try when we have an

3666
02:37:58,440 --> 02:37:56,200
author to link to their book and also to

3667
02:38:00,390 --> 02:37:58,450
link to their sites if you want to get

3668
02:38:02,850 --> 02:38:00,400
information about what they do that's

3669
02:38:04,261 --> 02:38:02,860
the easy way to do it Chris O'Brien they

3670
02:38:06,091 --> 02:38:04,271
ever get the video working at our

3671
02:38:08,761 --> 02:38:06,101
strange plant comm where they're still

3672
02:38:10,610 --> 02:38:08,771
trying no we haven't and it looks like

3673
02:38:14,070 --> 02:38:10,620
I'm gonna have to move my present

3674
02:38:15,360 --> 02:38:14,080
initial camera location as well so yeah

3675
02:38:18,421 --> 02:38:15,370
we're shaking things up a little bit

3676
02:38:20,461 --> 02:38:18,431
with that whole thing and I need to give

3677
02:38:22,410 --> 02:38:20,471
old Ben a call and see how he's doing so

3678
02:38:25,350 --> 02:38:22,420
we can keep moving forward with our

3679
02:38:27,301 --> 02:38:25,360
strange planet comm which is my site and

3680
02:38:29,881 --> 02:38:27,311
of course if you want to contact us on

3681
02:38:32,011 --> 02:38:29,891
Twitter we are the power cast there was

3682
02:38:33,870 --> 02:38:32,021
also a power cast fan club over on

3683
02:38:36,301 --> 02:38:33,880
Facebook in fact two of them and maybe

3684
02:38:39,000 --> 02:38:36,311
some Facebook maven out there we'll get

3685
02:38:40,680 --> 02:38:39,010
together with us to combine the two it's

3686
02:38:43,381 --> 02:38:40,690
that very flexible over at Facebook

3687
02:38:44,970 --> 02:38:43,391
really complicated Linda Godfrey thank

3688
02:38:47,580 --> 02:38:44,980
you so much for joining us this week on

3689
02:38:56,530 --> 02:38:47,590
the power cast it was my pleasure thanks

3690
02:39:01,580 --> 02:38:59,810
the para cast featuring Jim Steinberg

3691
02:39:04,700 --> 02:39:01,590
and Christopher o'brien

3692
02:39:08,511 --> 02:39:04,710
is a copyrighted presentation of making

3693
02:39:12,470 --> 02:39:08,521
the impossible Incorporated tune in next